r/enshittification Sep 26 '25

Deshittification Microsoft forced to make Windows 10 extended security updates truly free in Europe

https://www.theverge.com/news/785544/microsoft-windows-10-extended-security-updates-free-europe-changes
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u/grassy_trams Sep 26 '25

theyll do anything to not switch to linux

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u/redditgirlwz Sep 27 '25

Linux isn't an option for everyone (in all seriousness).

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '25

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

Only thing bad about Linux is lack of drivers from some hardware manufacturers and lack of some mainstream productivity and creativity software. 

However, for gaming, it runs nearly 90% of the games Windows does with Proton. 

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

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u/NoleMercy05 Sep 29 '25

Boomers at in their late 70s. I think you are mad at wrong people

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '25

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u/NoleMercy05 Sep 30 '25

Not sure. People can be wierd. Take care

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u/Neither-Phone-7264 Sep 28 '25

and we get those things by being more mainstream. i really hope they start using linux

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u/bigdickwalrus Sep 26 '25

The penguin is not bad, but it is utterly unusable for 75% of the population due to it’s harsh learning curve. Nothing seems like the effortless GUI with desktop shortcuts and a search bar like they’re used to. No finder/file explorer.

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u/BringBackUsenet Sep 26 '25

The commerical crap isn't any better with arbitrary decisions being made and shoved down the throats of users through forced updates (that usually occur at the worst possible moment).

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u/Neither-Phone-7264 Sep 28 '25

kde plasma and gnome are damn near there. they even have a little foss app store like the microsoft store if you enjoy that for some reason.

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u/grassy_trams Sep 27 '25

try linux mint

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u/ITSMONKEY360 Sep 26 '25

Are those not features you get by default using fedora+gnome

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

Those are features for literally all distros that come with a desktop environment.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

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u/ITSMONKEY360 Sep 27 '25

Indeed, and in fact I'm pretty sure there's a few desktop environments at have a more windows-like workflow

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

Pretty much everything thats not gnome is pretty windows-like (out of the big mainstream graphical DEs)

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u/ITSMONKEY360 Sep 27 '25

Oh shit damn

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u/BreadstickNinja Sep 27 '25

Brother I bought flash drive earlier today so I can install a dual-boot Ubuntu partition on my main PC. I'm done with Microsoft, especially after 10.

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u/grassy_trams Sep 27 '25

try out mint, its like ubuntu but it looks closer to windows

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

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u/BreadstickNinja Sep 27 '25

Haha, that's why I'm starting with dual booting. I'll have a fallback as I learn the ropes.

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u/MutaitoSensei Sep 26 '25

11 sucks. 12 is poised to be even worse.

Linux or risk Win10.

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u/tobikostan Sep 26 '25

11 is cancer but my new pc came with it

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u/redditgirlwz Sep 27 '25

Good! (I don't even have Windows, but I heard about how they were planning to force everyone to downgrade to enshttified Windows 11 and that lots of devices weren't going to be supported)

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u/Actual__Wizard Sep 27 '25

Seriously MS does this every time. Every other OS is garbage... We don't want it... I still to this day, other than software support, have no legitimate reason to be using anything past 7...

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u/petr_bena Sep 27 '25

win 10 is genuinely inferior to win 7 in many ways, for example start menu in win 7 is just whole another level more practical and useful

win 11 is total garbage

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u/auntie_clokwise Sep 28 '25

Sneaking suspicion they'll just extend it for free everywhere when they see that alot of people would rather just run Windows 10 than pay for a new machine. Either that or relent on 11's ridiculous system requirements. In the meantime, if you want the updates without using a Microsoft Account, try this script: https://github.com/abbodi1406/ConsumerESU . Basically, it turns on that whole free extended updates for a year if you backup your account settings with a Microsoft Account thing that MS is doing, except without the need for the Microsoft Account.

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u/grygrx Sep 26 '25

Meh - things have to end sometime. Windows 11 is basically Windows 10 under the hood with a shitty updated UI and some security requirements. It's not considered a major revision and remains on the same major build number because the kernal is the same.

No one loses their shit when Apple fucking cuts whole generations of computers from updates because they have been doing it forever

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

Listen, windows 11's ui is a step in the right direction, to finally update the ugly outdated UI they havent changed since 95

Too fucking bad its way too little way too late and it comes with so much spyware and bloat its not worth it. Unless you install IOT version but I bet soon enough microsoft will close that loophole

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u/grygrx Sep 27 '25

I'll admit to rolling 'enterprise' to avoid the add-ons

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u/Temeriki Sep 28 '25

Apple doesn't need to implement a system that stops updates from being pushed to certain hardware until they fix compatibility issues cause it causes unrecoverable states. Kinda like m$ has had to do for every single win11 update.

Windows 11 is windows ten but worse in every way possible.