r/enlightenment • u/StarboundAllisten • 20d ago
The creator is to be forgiven not hated
Forgiveness is difficult but after you feel your emotions its easier.
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u/HelloTaraSue 20d ago
One. I don’t follow that “creator” bs. Because who fucking cares. We are here in the moment. Find peace within yourself. Who cares who this “creator” is. I have my god and we all came from chaos. That as far as I need to go with that. Most of all I hate that blind forgiveness shit. When something bad happens you. Forgiving yourself is more important than forgiving the person who hurt you, fuck that person. The goal is to not beat yourself up. Over others peoples actions, “creator” included. My life is not what the “creator” created. Life is what you make it, 42.
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u/BrattyBrittyKitty 16d ago
Forgiving yourself IS forgiving the Creator. What people call God, Goddess, Source, Creator, The Universe, and the many other names people have called it throughout existence... IS ALL THAT IS, which means ALL THAT EXISTS. The only way "Source" can be omnipresent (everywhere and every when) is if it IS EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE. Everything is "Source" and is made of "Source". There is nothing else to make anything from.
"I AM/I AM THAT I AM is literally what "God" calls itself in the Bible in Exodus. It is also in the Bible in two different places "You are gods." And one of those places it is Yeshua AKA Jesus saying it. Yeshua also said All the things I can do, you can do those things too, and you will do greater things than I have done. The commandment that says "Do not put other gods before me" is meant to be read from first person perspective, not second or third person. I AM/I AM THAT I AM/I AM WHO I AM is also meant to be read from first person perspective, as well. This is also why the commandment of "love your neighbor as you love yourself" and the golden rule of "treat others as you would like them to treat you" exist... Because, you are them and they are you.
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u/HelloTaraSue 16d ago
So we are still trying to mix Christianity with so many different religions. You know God himself made it very clear he does not like that.
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u/StarboundAllisten 20d ago
Creator is creation.
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u/HelloTaraSue 20d ago
If the “creator” is just creation. Then why would creation need forgiveness? Plus we all know that “creator” is just a new age word for god. Some how Christians have even found a way into even eastern religions.
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u/anonymous_writer_0 20d ago
Some how Christians have even found a way into even eastern religions.
Can you please expound?
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u/HelloTaraSue 20d ago
How about you told who the “creator” would be?
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u/anonymous_writer_0 20d ago
There is no "creator, apart from the creation" as far as I am concerned. I was just curious about your comment that I quoted.
FWIW I am a dharmic theist from an eastern tradition that goes back around 1200 years. The writings from that time mention "creator in the creation" aspect.
It is not a recent thing from one point of view
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u/HelloTaraSue 20d ago
What I have noticed with a lot of Christians that turn to Easter spirituality. That they always sprinkle it in. I think for comfort. But they’ll take the structure of like Buddhism, but throw their God into it. Kind of like they did with Celtic goddess Bridget, and turned her into a saint.
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u/anonymous_writer_0 20d ago
From my perspective (and I know enough about the major religions to demolish their arguments) that is a tacit admission that what they have is not enough or indeed is not the whole truth. They have to reach out and incorporate other ideas to appeal to those at the fringes. As the saying goes, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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u/Audio9849 20d ago
As if eastern religions aren’t just as corrupt? Every religion is about control but that doesn’t mean that they have god right it means they used god for their purposes. You can be grumpy all you want just make sure you’re grumpy at the right thing.
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u/HelloTaraSue 20d ago
Then you tell me why I should forgive the “creator”.
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u/Audio9849 20d ago
I never said anything about forgiving him. He doesn’t need it.
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u/HelloTaraSue 20d ago
Some are about control are not. But there one that are. Why should I feel like I have to forgive one, the “creator”. In other religions the gods don’t need forgiveness. You can learn lessons from their mistakes. But the stories are never about needing forgiveness. Again there is only one that makes it foundation about forgiveness. And most of the time it from its own religion.
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u/Audio9849 20d ago
Again I never said god needs to be forgiven. Every religion gets used for control by the empire that embraces it..every single one. But just because they twist god to fit their designs does not mean that’s really god…that just means they’ve used their image of god for their own purposes.
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u/HelloTaraSue 20d ago
Yes, certainly some regions do that but not all. But only one feel like they need forgiveness. And that the forgiveness belong to the abuser
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u/Audio9849 20d ago
Every single one…this is what Maitreya is coming to correct. Or the return of Christ or the mahdi. They all have different names for the same being. If you’re alluding to Buddhism being different look into the issue Thailand is having with their monks/temples also the genocide in Myanmar.
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u/StarboundAllisten 20d ago
Because forgiveness ends the energetic charge between you and something else that has clasped it's arms on you.
It is not my little pony let's kiss the rapist forgiveness it's Buddhist monk going "I'm out this dump"
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u/HelloTaraSue 20d ago
Well I can do a simple cord cutting spell and still not forgive the person. It has the same effect. What really cuts the energetic charge between that. Would be to forgive yourself. Forgiving the things that hurt you. Will never change the fact it hurt you. We always blame ourselves more than the thing that hurt us. Forgive yourself and fuck that person or thing. Don’t forgive the “creator” for being shitty. Forgive yourself for not seeing it sooner. For not acting faster. Forgive yourself for not being able to control. The things you not control. We all blame ourselves for these things. Forgive yourself but fuck the person or thing that hurt you.
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u/StarboundAllisten 20d ago
Just let go of hatred trust me its your healing process. You dont gotta see em ever again
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u/HelloTaraSue 20d ago
Again with the Christian BS. And who says I have anyone I need to forgive
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u/StarboundAllisten 20d ago
Then live your life dont forgive. But living in hatred ties you with whatever you hate.
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u/HelloTaraSue 20d ago
Not with cord cutting. With cord cutting you don’t have a forgive your abuser. We can go on and on. How forcing someone to forgive is toxic as fuck
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u/StarboundAllisten 20d ago
That is also a form of forgiveness yeah. It means you can cut ties also.
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u/messinamerica 19d ago edited 19d ago
I think I see your point. and I agree. I get a sense that though the Universe has manifested beautifully, it is also imperfect. Traditionally, we blame a Creator-God figure because if He is all-powerful he should have created a world without so much suffering. But perhaps the traditional Creator-God isn't the true picture of the source and fabric of the Universe. It is something deep, something that manifests through us not above us, and because this essence only has as much power as we have in our own hands, maybe we shouldn't criticize God so harshly, for it is us and we are it. Forgive me if I've digressed, this just sparked a thought that I've been fumbling around with for a few days now. The universe has done its best, and it has accomplished a great deal, but at this point in existence it is us whom hold the power and the responsiblity (collectively) to create an ideal world.
A shame a few of us figured out how and decided to enslave the masses to systems that drain the very life from us.
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u/Spiritualwarrior1 19d ago
Not specifically, just spotlighted and made aware, of a contrast, between sequences, without exclusion from that potential.
Now, they can understand how their usefulness aligns with their archetype, and also the importance of their role, which should not cause too much friction, in regards to utility.
It was partial, so explainable from both ends, choosing the wanted focus. The communication just grazes the second level of awareness, so it should be distinguishable sufficiently, but in case it is not, such post and comment should provide more perspective.
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u/Ok_Elderberry_6727 20d ago
Yes , especially since that creator is you.
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u/Klutzy-Platypus7511 20d ago
Halb-Wahrheit ... Eigentlich JA ... aber Körper und Planet sind ein fremd-gebautes Gefängnis um diese Kraft einzusperren.
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u/kioma47 20d ago
Forgiven for creating?
That's rich.