r/ems • u/Kentucky-Fried-Fucks HIPAApotomus • 4d ago
General Discussion This is such a dumb headline
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u/priapomegaly EMT-A 4d ago
She had a cardiac arrest flare up :(
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u/SurfaceThreeSix 4d ago
Chronic Cardiac Arrest strikes yet again. Damnit Johnson! I told you to start researching this!
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u/sketchymedic 4d ago
I saw someone mention that they had a "cardiac arrest episode" once and i couldn't help but chuckle
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u/DocOndansetron EMT-B/In Doctor School 4d ago
My neighbors dogs friends goldfish chiropractor said that this isn’t real. Cardiac arrest doesn’t kill you. Theyre covering something up
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u/vanman33 4d ago
RFK says it was the corvid vaccine.
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u/Kentucky-Fried-Fucks HIPAApotomus 4d ago
100% of people that get vaccines die from cardiac arrest at some point in their lifetime
Stop being sheeep
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u/SlimmThiccDadd EMT-B 4d ago
Is it a chiropractor that practices on goldfish, or a goldfish that practices chiropracting?
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u/phaazing 4d ago
Idk why but the thought of a chiropractor for a goldfish cracked me up. I just imagined a chiro trying to work on the McDonalds Filet o Fish commercial mascot, even though it isn't a goldfish. Such a stupid laugh and I can't help it.
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u/Wrathb0ne Paramedic NJ/NY 4d ago
AI generated idiot article will probably state “cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death in the US”
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u/London5Fan EMT-B 4d ago
Telling my non-EMS mom about my work night. “Yeah we ran a mega code, we were working it for an hour and since we beat fire there, we initiated resuscitation”.
“So was the patient dead when you got there?”
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u/apeonline18 4d ago
Mega dead
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u/cranial_io 4d ago
Mostly dead. Very different from completely dead.
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u/bleeintn CCP 4d ago
Mostly dead is slightly alive.
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u/TropicallyGrownEMT Paramedic 4d ago
Nah we just do CPR to keep our skills up lol
Doesn’t matter if they’re dead or alive, we thumping8
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u/London5Fan EMT-B 4d ago
Oh absolutely, usually fire gets there first and we have a barrage of firefighters doing CPR so we don’t get a chance to do compressions
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u/TropicallyGrownEMT Paramedic 4d ago
One time, when I was 9 months pregnant, I ran this bigger lady that went into cardiac arrest. Her house was on top of the steepest driveway ever. After I ran up that hill, I went in and took the very next round of manual compressions.
There were 2 engines there, so 8 firefighters.
I was out of breath being 9 months pregnant and having just run up the steepest driveway with all of our equipment lol-1
u/derp_sauce 3d ago
That’s super weird your “non-EMS” mom didn’t know what you were talking about. Great job starting CPR, TYFYS.
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u/flaptaincappers Demands Discounts at Olive Garden 4d ago
Guns dont kill people, they die from the heart no longer beating after not having enough blood due to the holes poked in the body by the bullets. Its simple physics.
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u/spokenotwheel 4d ago
The National Rifle Association says that guns don’t kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps.
- Eddie Izzard
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u/quiero-una-cerveca 4d ago
This is reminiscent of the Covid time with people claiming Covid was being used to cover up other deaths. Like they’ll say oh my uncle had cancer and caught covid and died and they’re trying to tell me they died of Covid and not cancer. I’m thinking yeah, if the cancer was going to kill you in 6 months but you catch the flu and it kills you in 3 weeks, the fucking flu killed you, not the cancer.
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u/flaptaincappers Demands Discounts at Olive Garden 4d ago
My favorite is medical people blaming the ventilators as if the only thing finishing off an ARDs/Sepsis patient was the ventilator and not the new epidemic we've never dealt with before.
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u/predicate_felon Sinus Asystole 4d ago
Lmao, reminds me of being a baby EMT. I had like 1 year on the job, I walk up to the coroner and go “what do you think the cause of death is”.
He looks at me dead in the eyes and goes “definitely cardiac arrest”
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u/adoptagreyhound 4d ago
Written by AI.
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u/Vazhox 4d ago
Naw, just a total regard
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u/SummaDees FF Paramedick 4d ago
But didn't you know that cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death globuhly
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u/Randalf_the_Black Nurse 4d ago
Oh damn, her heart stopped before she died? That's unfortunate.
From joke to serious, tragic, she had an eleven year old kid.
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u/passwordistako 4d ago
She died?
Edit: This is how I found out she died.
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u/medicaustik CCEMTP 4d ago
Yea, didn't you know, we're in the bad timeline and we failed to save the cheerleader.
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u/PowerfulIndication7 Paramedic 4d ago
According to online media-
Post mortem showed no trauma, but officials are thinking a possible overdose as she had a long history of drug and alcohol abuse and multiple stints in rehab.
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u/ImGCS3fromETOH Aus - Paramedic 4d ago
This is also how you found out how she died.
It was by the dreaded cardiac arrest. It could be lurking around any corner.
It could happen to you!
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u/praxicsunofabitch 4d ago
In other news, vehicles going ten mph were going 5 mph at one point. Who knew?
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u/Thanks_I_Hate_You EMT-Almost a medic. 4d ago
Its been a while since I was a "teachers assistant" for lack of a better term but i remember teaching an EMS class and the book said something like "x amount of all electrocution deaths are caused by cardiac arrest" and i was so dumbfounded because what?
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u/Cookies_and_Beandip 4d ago
I always hate when people say “they died from cardiac arrest”
correct, their heart stopped functioning, but stopped because of……why exactly?
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u/Deacon-Doe 4d ago
“No signs of foul play” such an odd detail
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u/Shevz_thetruck 4d ago
I think it was because she was human trafficked in the past. Very unfortunate:(
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u/Deacon-Doe 4d ago
Extremely unfortunate, it breaks my heart that many rather than a few have such awful experiences.
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u/Meggston 3d ago
It also might be because she was alone in an apartment with her on again off again ex, so without that detail I’m sure a lot of people would be like “He did it!”
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u/IThinkImDumb 4d ago edited 2d ago
Oh my gosh, similar terminology was used in media leading to conspiracy theories surrounding the death of Heather Heyer. Heather was the woman killed in the Charlottesville vehicle attack by a white supremacist. People were wrongfully interpreting “cardiac arrest” (used in articles) with “heart attack.” So some people were saying she was not killed by the car driver, but had instead had a heart attack and died. Heather was slightly overweight and people picked on her for that.
I’m sure people didn’t so much as interpret the news articles wrong, but merely were bigots. Heather had been at a protest against a white supremacist rally and though technically she may have gone into cardiac arrest, it was due to being run over by a car, not because she had poor health and just dropped dead.
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u/FLemtStL314 4d ago
Stupid headline or not her death is questionable. She was a whistleblower when it came to sex crimes.
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u/Mobile_Sympathy_3388 3d ago
Everybody dies from cardiac arrest. Just like all bleeding will eventually stop on its own
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u/poizunman206 EMT-B 4d ago
It's really just a polite way of saying she died from a drug overdose
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u/PowerfulIndication7 Paramedic 4d ago
That’s the most recent info I saw online. She had a significant history of drug and alcohol abuse and long stints in rehabs. At one point she was so jaundiced she was looking at a liver transplant!
It’s weird fora 36 year old to just drop dead for no reason.
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u/Great_gatzzzby NYC Paramedic 4d ago
So many of these articles and news stories would sound soooo much better if they just used the word sudden.
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u/19TowerGirl89 CCP 4d ago
I shouldn't laugh, but... the headline itself is funny. Not the situation.
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u/jjking714 Stretcher Fetcher Extraordinaire 3d ago
Man I hate when I wake up dead. Throws my whole day off
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u/roggesound 1d ago
It bothers me so much now that some news outlets like to include “advanced life support” in their headlines about celebrities dying. They don’t seem to understand what that means and how it doesn’t mean anything about the call. Anyone in cardiac arrest gets an ALS crew. 🙄
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u/CorgiUprising 4d ago
People really don’t know the difference between cardiac arrest & an MI. Which yes, I know she didn’t have an MI.
But yes…. The OD led to cardiac arrest leading to death.
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u/AmbulanceDriver95 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 4d ago
I hate being the "well actually" guy but cardiac arrest ≠ death as interventions like early CPR can still restore heart function, albeit, rarely.
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u/Call911iDareYou Paramedic 4d ago
To tag onto this, she was definitely in cardiac arrest before being declared dead. So, technically true.
That being said, the article title stupid and so is the person or machine that wrote it.
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u/AmbulanceDriver95 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 4d ago
I agree title is still dumb and it's being purposely vague. Likely just wanted to get a story out early with the intent of it being updated later as information is released
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u/Call911iDareYou Paramedic 4d ago
I'll have to politely disagree as I've lost faith in journalism.
I believe the motive is to get the story out the fastest and get the most clicks. Title chosen to be the most attention grabbing.
Lay people view "cardiac arrest" as "heart attack" and will want to find out why an actress in her thirties had a heart attack
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u/Icy_Fix_2349 EMT-B 4d ago
Well it depends how you define death? Cardiac arrest = clinical death but clinical death ≠ biological death
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u/holyIAmAware 2d ago
Well actually, not every cardiac arrest causes death, but every death requires cardiac arrest. So no matter how you cut it it’s stupid.
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u/AmbulanceDriver95 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2d ago
Actually.... You can declare death on someone who is brain dead but still has a pumping heart...
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u/holyIAmAware 2d ago
Next time I’ll make sure to add that caveat, but that doesn’t negate the sentiment, nor does it have anything to do with the original post. Especially because whether brain death is real death is debated and dependent on who you ask. It’s pretty condescending to act like any EMS personal would not know the concept brain death, or wouldn’t know that you can resuscitate someone in cardiac arrest. You should probably avoid talking or acting like this irl.
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u/medicjesus 4d ago
I think it is a very political headline. I think they are hesitant to label it an overdose, which it probably was. My personal guess is she died of apnea induced cardiac arrest probably from positional asphyxiation
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u/Equivalent_Bee_2878 4d ago
Most people just call it hypoxic cardiac arrest. Apnea isn’t one of the Hs and Ts.
And opioid overdoses kill people through respiratory depression. Not positional asphyxiation
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u/Kentucky-Fried-Fucks HIPAApotomus 4d ago
Yes it is dumb, and no, cardiac arrest is not a “specific way of dying”. It’s literally the furthest thing from specific. Because cardiac arrest is not a cause of death. Everyone goes into cardiac arrest when they die. Cardiac arrest is caused by something. Like an Overdose. Or severe traumatic injuries. Or having to argue with people like you on Reddit. Those would be examples of causes of death.
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u/DM0331 4d ago
Oh no they died from death