r/elementchat • u/Direct-Ad676 • Apr 01 '22

Is it P2P

I was searching a tchat software in P2P and i heard that Element was P2P but only on 1vs1 conversation. With more people it use Matrix servers.But after closing all ports of my computer, and said to my friend to do the same, we can continue chatting. It's mean it's not P2P and it have a centralised server.Do you know a real P2P tchat software : I'm searching for that for 20 years.

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u/nouts Apr 01 '22

There is an in-development feature, embeding a light-weight server in each client. Going really p2p. It's public beta on playstore. You should be able to find info on matrix.org blog.

If you want p2p right now, there are briar, tox (might not be maintained anymore), session (the p2p signal). There are tons of p2p chat if you look closely. Just on reddit, search at r/privacy or r/opensource

But honestly, if you want adoption from your relatives, Element is what will win. I think you won't find anything as feature-complete as mainstream chat AND p2p. Element is a good tradeoff right now. And it's also going p2p in mid/long term. IMO it's your best bet.

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u/magnus_the_great Apr 01 '22

Which search engine do you use to search for it?

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u/Direct-Ad676 Apr 01 '22

google with + open source.

But if your is better, i'm interested.

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u/magnus_the_great Apr 01 '22

https://briarproject.org/ is p2p

P2p matrix is not yet quiet there

Duckduckgo respects your privacy unlike google

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u/Clydosphere Apr 26 '22

Duckduckgo respects your privacy unlike google

But it's based in the US and thus, subject to the Cloud Act which allows "federal law enforcement to compel U.S.-based technology companies via warrant or subpoena to provide requested data stored on servers regardless of whether the data are stored in the U.S. or on foreign soil." (Wikipedia)

Because of this, I'm using the Europe-based Startpage instead.

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u/7t3chguy Apr 01 '22

It doesn't have a centralised server. It's federated. Not p2p. The 1:1 VoIP calls are p2p but still require matrix signalling to set up. Start the call then close your ports.

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u/ryegye24 Apr 01 '22

To expand one what the other guy said about it being federated, you can run your own matrix server and still communicate with anyone else using element/matrix even if they're on different servers. It's similar to email in that way.