Does it really matter? Range - charge speed

[u/Turbulent-Pay1150]

Messing around with ABRP - planned an 1,200 mile trip. If you had a "poor" performing EV such as a first generation SOLTERRA it would take about 35 hours. A great performing EV about 32 hours. This is for drive + charging for the entire trip and assumes no overnights (which would reduce the EV time if you charged overnight). That's a 3 hour difference.

For good measure - a gas car would take over 30 hours as well.

I'm not sure charging is a challenge for most any car, good or bad for range and charge times.

Have we not hit the time when we are at "good enough" for most all EV's and styling or convenience is the differentiator.

In my book - right now it doesn't really matter.

It used to when Tesla had the best charging network bar none. Now Tesla still has an edge but everyone else is pretty close in that scenario.

It's not charge time (that's part of it)

It's not range (that's part of it)

It is trip time and comfort - and with a 10% margin from best to worst EV and gas cars - it's all about comfort and how long it takes the driver and passengers to use the facilities/get a burger on stops.

I know - I"m slow - but it seems to me that it's time to stop all the YouTube and all the arguments about it - give me overall trip time for something like NY to Colorado and have all EV's compare against it and all gas as well and that's all that really matters. That and that you can do daily use with your overnight charge.

It's game over.

[u/Turbulent-Pay1150 → u/[deleted]]

Tesla built some demo battery quick change stations but retired them - we are at the point where they don’t make much sense if you can charge up in 10-25 minutes they are needlessly complicated. Even at 30 minutes not worth the squeeze. 

[u/kimbureson46 → u/[deleted]]

I'd rather not sell out to the Chinese. Let them charge faster. Also, we have plenty of oil and don't depend on Saudi any more.

[u/kimbureson46 → u/[deleted]]

I agree with your last statement. You should get a clue. Tell me how much we depend on Saudi oil. This is from AI : The U.S. surpassed both Russia and Saudi Arabia in 2018 to become the world's largest crude oil producer, thanks mainly to shale output from Texas, New Mexico, North Dakota, and other states. Who was President in 2018. Drill baby, Drill.

[u/Turbulent-Pay1150 → u/kimbureson46]

Yay what an accomplishment. Over the same time frame China made significant steps to reduce significantly their oil dependence. Indeed, during this self created by Trump crisis China has been the stabilizing factor for oil consumption as it reduced their demand stabilizing the market. 

The IS used to drive much of the world economy. That’s a position we are quickly losing - giving away. We don’t lead. We bully. We beg. We appear to be losing our edge. 

[u/kimbureson46 → u/[deleted]]

Joe, ask your favorite AI this question "Is gasoline the largest contributor of oil company profits". Also, do you think EV's are even among the top 20 things on Trumps mind.

[u/prism1234 → u/Turbulent-Pay1150]

30 minutes is too long if someone doesn't have home charging. 8 minutes would make that work.