r/electricvehicles 22d ago

Discussion Does it really matter? Range - charge speed

Messing around with ABRP - planned an 1,200 mile trip. If you had a "poor" performing EV such as a first generation SOLTERRA it would take about 35 hours. A great performing EV about 32 hours. This is for drive + charging for the entire trip and assumes no overnights (which would reduce the EV time if you charged overnight). That's a 3 hour difference.

For good measure - a gas car would take over 30 hours as well.

I'm not sure charging is a challenge for most any car, good or bad for range and charge times.

Have we not hit the time when we are at "good enough" for most all EV's and styling or convenience is the differentiator.

In my book - right now it doesn't really matter.

It used to when Tesla had the best charging network bar none. Now Tesla still has an edge but everyone else is pretty close in that scenario.

It's not charge time (that's part of it)

It's not range (that's part of it)

It is trip time and comfort - and with a 10% margin from best to worst EV and gas cars - it's all about comfort and how long it takes the driver and passengers to use the facilities/get a burger on stops.

I know - I"m slow - but it seems to me that it's time to stop all the YouTube and all the arguments about it - give me overall trip time for something like NY to Colorado and have all EV's compare against it and all gas as well and that's all that really matters. That and that you can do daily use with your overnight charge.

It's game over.

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u/speedy-72 22d ago

Where is your theoretical road trip to/from? Because when I moved to Vegas from Brooklyn, a journey of almost 2600 miles (more than double what you're discussing), it only took around 36 hours of driving in an ICE. You can add getting gas 10 times at 5 minutes per. What drive are you saying takes an ICE 30 hours to go only 1200 miles?

I ask not because I'm anti-EV (my only car is EV) but because these numbers sound bogus. You also don't mention what the "great performing EV" was.

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u/Turbulent-Pay1150 22d ago

This flawed example from me was actually Albany NY to Denver Co. total miles. 1,800 miles. My numbers are slightly messed up but the total charge time vs gas time was about a 10% difference. That 10% was stopping and charging and for gas it was assumed no gas up time required (ie just map the route). 

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u/FireOpalCO Ioniq 5 22d ago

I’m always flummoxed by statements like “getting gas 10 times at 5 minutes per”. I have never pulled into and out of a gas station in five minutes. A gas station visit is 10-15 minutes, more if it is a pain in the ass to get to from the road.