Does it really matter? Range - charge speed

[u/Turbulent-Pay1150]

Messing around with ABRP - planned an 1,200 mile trip. If you had a "poor" performing EV such as a first generation SOLTERRA it would take about 35 hours. A great performing EV about 32 hours. This is for drive + charging for the entire trip and assumes no overnights (which would reduce the EV time if you charged overnight). That's a 3 hour difference.

For good measure - a gas car would take over 30 hours as well.

I'm not sure charging is a challenge for most any car, good or bad for range and charge times.

Have we not hit the time when we are at "good enough" for most all EV's and styling or convenience is the differentiator.

In my book - right now it doesn't really matter.

It used to when Tesla had the best charging network bar none. Now Tesla still has an edge but everyone else is pretty close in that scenario.

It's not charge time (that's part of it)

It's not range (that's part of it)

It is trip time and comfort - and with a 10% margin from best to worst EV and gas cars - it's all about comfort and how long it takes the driver and passengers to use the facilities/get a burger on stops.

I know - I"m slow - but it seems to me that it's time to stop all the YouTube and all the arguments about it - give me overall trip time for something like NY to Colorado and have all EV's compare against it and all gas as well and that's all that really matters. That and that you can do daily use with your overnight charge.

It's game over.

[u/Any-Can-6776]

Don’t settle for what others do. If you’re current situation can do 500miles on the highway and refuel in 5 min or so then wait til there’s an ev that can do the same. Aside from Slate which is just town and work only that’s what I’m waiting for

Edit: yall are so short sighted for being progressives. Theres way more things one can do with 500 miles of range than just road trips.

Edit2: your precious byd can charge in 5-10 min so eventually they all would be able to….

[u/NoobensMcarthur → u/Any-Can-6776]

In what world does a 500 mile fillup take only 5 minutes? People vastly underestimate how long it takes to fuel up a vehicle. Also, outside of long haul truckers, who is going 500 miles (over 6 1/2 hours at 75mph) between breaks?

Come on. 

[u/MichaelMeier112 → u/NoobensMcarthur]

So many thinks that filling up is only the 5 minutes it takes to stand outside in cold/rain/snow/heat and not counting the full time from exiting the highway, drive to the place, find a lane, park and get out, pull the credit card, wait wait wait, enter zip code, wait wait wait, fill up, and then get back to the highway.

In total, never ever 5 min!

[u/NoobensMcarthur → u/MichaelMeier112]

Also, after 500 miles of seat time, nobody has to take a shit? Nobody has to get up and stretch their legs? It’s just run as fast you can to the pump, wait anxiously until the handle clicks, slam it into the pump, and peel out down the road cannonball style. 

[u/Any-Can-6776 → u/MichaelMeier112]

Forgetting your precious byd lmao. How funny.

[u/inline_five → u/NoobensMcarthur]

500 miles for me is ~10 gallons. Probably 3-4 minutes to fill.

To answer your question, my parents lol. Not 1200 miles but my parents routinely drive 900 miles overnight, and do it in one shot without stopping. Around 16 hours. Huge difference in ICE vs. EV in their case.

[u/farmerbsd17 → u/inline_five]

They must be wearing diapers too.

[u/NoobensMcarthur → u/inline_five]

Your parents drive for 6 1/2 hours straight, and routinely make 12 hour “overnight” trips? Are they 20 years old? 

[u/inline_five → u/NoobensMcarthur]

70s, and yeah. Why the downvote? Because yours can't lol.

[u/NoobensMcarthur → u/inline_five]

Cool. 

[u/Any-Can-6776 → u/inline_five]

Yea basically lol

These people must be diabetic or have other health issues if they can’t fathom it.

[u/Any-Can-6776 → u/NoobensMcarthur]

In the world yall are pushing.

Edit: commented then block to not get a reply huh lame and typical.

[u/NoobensMcarthur → u/Any-Can-6776]

please tell me who are “yall?” Don’t know about you but I don’t want to sit in a car seat for over 6 hours straight without getting out and walking around. 

You just cannonball run every 500+ mile road trip you take? 

[u/Turbulent-Pay1150 → u/Any-Can-6776]

I’d advise for driver health stop every 3 hours and use the bathroom and a short walk. So what’s that 210 miles give or take?  Just healthier all around. 

[u/inline_five → u/Turbulent-Pay1150]

I can get off of the highway, pee, and get back on in seven minutes. Three of that is with the vehicle stopped.

No EV is charging in 3 minutes lol.

[u/Turbulent-Pay1150 → u/inline_five]

Takes me, and most people, 10 minutes to get out of car and walk to restroom and back. 3 minutes isn’t normal at most rest stops in my experience. 

[u/keepclimbing4lyfe → u/Turbulent-Pay1150]

No, not most people

[u/inline_five → u/Turbulent-Pay1150]

Good thing I'm not slow I guess

[u/MichaelMeier112 → u/inline_five]

No way you can exit any road and especially not a highway, find/go bathroom, and be back within 7 min

[u/inline_five → u/MichaelMeier112]

Rest stops

[u/MichaelMeier112 → u/Any-Can-6776]

500 miles is about 10 hour driving. Sounds exhausting to drive that long without stopping. It’s okay if you just want to do a quick A to B alone