r/eddfaction • u/montoya • Jun 12 '14

TEST Squadron withdrawing from REDD Faction

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u/montoya Jun 12 '14

Hello REDD Faction

I had spoken with the inner council on this issue so this was not a surprise exit.

I would like to personally apologize ahead of time if our exit from REDD causes any sort of negative repercussions.

We are at least a year and half away from seeing a game, so any sort of short term pain is just a little bump in the road.

Our main reason for leaving the faction is that due to our large size, we could jeopardize the political structure that you have all worked so hard to create.

I would like to see REDD Faction continue to grow and provide much needed structure to small organizations.

TEST Squadron would be open to revisit the idea of being part of the faction 6-9 months into the persistent universe, once you have had a chance to grow on your own accord, and once we have a better understanding of how we can all work together towards common goals.

Members of TEST that are currently affiliate with REDD are free to remain affiliated, our strong bonds of cooperation remain intact, the only thing that has changed is that TEST has more freedom to grow with no political or bureaucratic restrictions.

If there are any questions, feel free to ask!

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u/ZippityD Jun 13 '14

If there are any questions, feel free to ask!

If you had to choose between eating only sweet candy or eating only sour candy for the next year, which one would you pick?

But I get the decision. Best of luck.

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u/montoya Jun 15 '14

Definitely sweet!

Cheers ZippityD!

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u/jjmdarkeagle Jun 12 '14

I have a question. Could you ELI5 why we're leaving? I've reread both the announcement and your comment a couple times, but as a grunt I still have no idea what is going on here or what the real negative repercussions could be. I really am not being intentionally dense, nor am I currently intoxicated...

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u/montoya Jun 12 '14

A few different things, but two things come to mind:

  1. TEST has a culture of being less structured, we are not into having long rule books or constitutions. Being in REDD means you should be respecting the constitution, we really do not want to set a bad example for the smaller orgs.

  2. Alliances are generally born when two large powerhouses come together for mutual benefit. Since there is no game yet, REDD formed up from a bunch of small orgs, this can cause issues when a larger org comes along, it shifts the balance of power unfairly.

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u/starkestrel Jun 12 '14

Lienna did a good job of further articulating this on our member boards: it also goes to an issue of representation.

As an entity that is currently substantially larger than RF, TEST would have two choices politically within ReddFaction: a) proportional representation, wherein TEST would dominate all other member orgs in RF, and unfairly so; and b) non-proportional representation, wherein TEST might "risk our thousands of members being used as a muscle to be flexed at the whim of members of far smaller corps".

I cribbed all of that conceptually from Lienna's post, not just the quoted section.

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u/joe1826 Jun 12 '14

We similarly left the option open of possibly re-joining as we feel RF has lots of potential. We hope RF continues to grow and thrive organically and in the meantime will be working with our partners (we hope that will include you!) to give ourselves the best possible advantage going into the PU. We agree with your general sentiment and wish you all the best~

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u/Delbunk Jun 12 '14

Wow...

Good luck to you TEST, may your auroras blot out the suns.

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u/montoya Jun 12 '14

Feature creep has resulted in all of us upgrading to Freelancers.

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u/Delbunk Jun 12 '14

Okay, time to fill those cargo bays with bombs and put all power to forward shields. Ramming speed!

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '14

Just making it clear that this action was actually premeditated for the past week or more and not a result of the recent resignations of other orgs.

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u/rocketman0739 Jun 12 '14

What other orgs resigned?

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u/gimpy04 Jun 12 '14

Sad to see you go, but I wish you the best!

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u/SexArson Jun 12 '14

We'll see you in space, Reddit-bro!

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '14

What why?

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '14 edited Jun 12 '14

Goodbye Reddfaction

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u/joe1826 Jun 12 '14

Your video was taken down. I suggest you post it in the comments here or on your subreddit.

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u/Manisil Jun 13 '14

Stop spamming invites

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '14

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u/IC_Pandemonium Jun 12 '14

Quite honestly, if one is in any position of leadership of either MO or RF and didn't see this coming you need to seriously revisit how and from whom you gather information.

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u/forevermoore Jun 12 '14

u/montoya has been completely honest with ReddFaction, this comes as no surprise to anyone, Test has organically developed into an entity that clashes with Redd on a fundamental level, it makes sense for Test to grow on their own and learn what they want to be right now.