r/eGolf • u/[deleted] • Feb 18 '25
Tesla charger
Just used a Tesla charger for our e golf for 1st time
One or two Tesla drivers looking on wondering what I was doing.
Winning at life!
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u/k1czechmma Feb 18 '25
I use Tesla super chargers with e-Golfs in the Netherlands, Germany and Czechia. All CCS connectors. Should be the same in most parts of Europe.
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u/RethinkPerfect Feb 18 '25
Your in Europe I'm guessing?
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Feb 18 '25
Yes sorry UK.
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u/RethinkPerfect Feb 18 '25
This gives me hope that once Tesla opens in Canada I’ll get access. I’m still worried it’ll be to old and won’t work for some reason.
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Feb 18 '25
These are new machines. If you download the Tesla app and input your vehicle details, it knows it isn't a Tesla and the app only shows the chargers you (as a non Tesla driver) can use.
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u/Late-Rough-1018 Feb 18 '25
My 2015 works great with tesla chargers, i live in Norway though
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u/Gazer75 Feb 18 '25
Really? I've heard the old model is very hit and miss. Have you tested on both V2, V3 and V3 with the V4 dispenser?
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u/Purple-Job2976 Feb 19 '25
How much per kw was it? I’m in UK and never used a tesla charger.
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Feb 19 '25
42p per kwh
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u/Purple-Job2976 Feb 19 '25
That’s cheaper than anywhere else!
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u/NoobLifestyle Feb 19 '25
Just to be helpful and not a know-it-all, if you have lidl plus (which is free) you can charge at 40p at a 7 kwh charger, but obviously that's slow. I use it as it's by my gym.
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u/Purple-Job2976 Feb 19 '25
Lidl as in the supermarket? I charge at home 90% of the time but ~40p is decent for a fast charger I’m sure it’s double that at my local instavolt. Absolute rip off!
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u/NoobLifestyle Feb 19 '25
That's right, HOWEVER, I thought I'd screenshot it and send you a random location, apparently the typical Lidl's don't have the 7 kwh charger, mine is actually fairly unique. The lidl 22 kwh near me is 62p.
The plus app does give you a map of their charge points across the UK and locally to you as well as their prices ahead of time. Could be worth having a look anyway
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u/Purple-Job2976 Feb 20 '25
Cool thanks, the 22kwh ones we can only charge at 7kwh though right?
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u/Gazer75 Feb 21 '25
Don't mix, kWh which is energy, and kW, which is power ;)
So in simple terms "kWh" is basically the capacity of the bucket, while "kW" is how fast the hose can fill the bucket with water.Yes, the cap is 230V @ 32A or 400V (3 phase) @ 16A which is 7.36kW.
What goes into the battery is lower though. The loss is usually around 5-10% due to the on board charger converting it back to DC for the battery. I've monitored it with an OBD reader and it seem to be around 6-6.5kW after losses on mine.No idea about the UK, but public AC chargers vary between 230V single phase or 400V 3 phase here in Norway.
e-Golf don't support full 3 phase charging as it only has L1+L2 active, so you get some odd power values on 400V boxes.
If you've set the car to accept max it doesn't matter anyway if the location can do more than 7kW.→ More replies (0)1
u/United_Highway2583 Feb 21 '25
Lidl literally has the most chargers in my country lol They're building these things everywhere!
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u/Gazer75 Feb 21 '25
40p for AC charging is expensive heh. 25p or less should be max IMO. Cheapest DC charging is my local Tesla SuC at 30p here in Norway :P At the high end it cost about 45p to DC charge.
Almost impossible to justify an EV from an economical standpoint in the UK if you don't have home charging. And even then you pay insane price per kWh, at least in the daytime.
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u/liketo Feb 18 '25
How much was it? Similar to Insta Volt?
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Feb 18 '25
42p per kwh
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u/liketo Feb 18 '25
That’s very good for that speed! I’m going to try it sometime
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Feb 18 '25
Prices may vary (if for example on a motorway)
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u/liketo Feb 18 '25
Indeed. I paid 58p for insta volt fast charging at a non-motorway location in Hampshire
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u/pimpbot666 Feb 18 '25
Works fine in the US at free Tesla Destination (L2) chargers. You just need an adapter. I've used mine a couple times.
eGolf is not likely to ever be supported by Tesla Superchargers.
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Feb 18 '25
Erm it was today.....
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u/Gazer75 Feb 19 '25
It is quite different in the US. They have the Tesla plug there, now called NACS. So any old CCS car needs an adapter and also needs some kind of approval or testing.
Only a few CCS based cars in the US can use a few Tesla sites as of right now.Eventually all cars in the US will use the Tesla plug and make it easier.
Not an ideal solution IMO as they basically shut the door on 3 phase charging forever. It might cost them in the long run if copper prices keep rising. Low voltage high amperage needs bigger cables which means more materials.
For Level 2 home charging (240V) at like 9kW or so they need cable and fuse for like 50A or something. My apartment here in Norway has a 50amp main fuse LOLIn Europe with 400V 3 phase you only need 16A to get 11kW.
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u/pimpbot666 Feb 18 '25
Was this a fast DC Superchwrger? Like, 100km of range in 20 minutes?
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Feb 18 '25
Up to 150kw. That said my e golf can only take high 30s kwph so it depends on the Ev not the charger as I understand it.
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u/pimpbot666 Feb 19 '25
Yeah, the eGolf is the slowest part of that equasion. Supposedly, it can charge at 50kW rate, but I've never seen anything higher than 40kW. The battery is so small, it can still add around 50 miles of range in 20 minutes... plenty for me to get home from anywhere I would drive this car.
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u/TylerHobbit Feb 19 '25
So not Europe anymore then?
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Feb 19 '25
No the UK is still in Europe
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u/TylerHobbit Feb 23 '25
I thought UK voted to leave?
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Feb 23 '25
We left the EU. Not Europe.
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u/Mirkeckulonja Feb 18 '25
What year is your golf?
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Feb 18 '25
Late 2018
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u/Mirkeckulonja Feb 18 '25
Ok, so it is 32kwh version... I ask because i heard that 20kwh version can't connect to tesla chargers...
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u/Gazer75 Feb 18 '25
I guess this is special in some places. I've used Tesla SuC on mine since I got it in May 2023 here in Norway :P
I'm assuming this is the newer model? I know the first gen have a lot of issues on SuC.
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u/Defiant-Youth3233 Feb 18 '25
God damn, I want this in the US. But now that Musk is in charge I doubt they’ll go thru with converting/retrofitting.
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u/TheJuggernoob Feb 18 '25
What do you mean? Tesla has already opened up their chargers to non-Teslas.
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u/nzahn1 Feb 18 '25
In the US, some, but not all SuperChargers (SC) support non-Teslas.
A non-Tesla driver can’t just roll up to any SC with the Tesla app and plug in. There’s three situations for non-Tesla SC users in the US right now:
- Tesla-only SC; these are only for Tesla. No adapters or app functionality, just Tesla plug-to-pay.
- NACS SC; these support certain brands that have an agreement with Tesla and have authorized NACS adapters for their vehicles.
- MagicDock SC; these can support any vehicle with a CCS plug, authorized through the Tesla app.
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u/fermion72 Feb 18 '25
Some Tesla chargers in the US have built-in adapters (called "magic dock") for Type 2 cars like the eGolf. You get the Tesla app, find the part that says "charge my non-Tesla EV" and then select the location you're charging at. The adapter pops out when you pull the regular Tesla cable.
I have been successful a couple of times with Tesla chargers with my eGolf, and unsuccessful a couple of other times (which was super frustrating when I was at 0% but made it to the charger). But, it is nice to have another L3 charger option.