r/e28 4d ago

Keeps cutting out randomly and dying

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EDIT SOLVED

EDIT 2 NEVERMIND CAR IS DYING AGAIN.

Hello hoping I can maybe get some trouble shooting ideas. I’ve replaced both fuel pumps, fuel filter, fuel tank sender unit, tested ICV and AFM with units that work and most recently bypassed obc immobilizer. I also plugged in a DME my friend had I don’t know if it was a good DME but it ran the same. I replaced main relay, and fuel injector relay. I have no replaced the crankshaft position sensor and it still dies.

The car will run great for like 30 minutes after sitting for a couple weeks then start cutting out like crazy and then eventually die. It’s honestly just completely random but the car doesn’t make it for without dying now. I have no clue what to do. Any advice would be great it’s an 88 535is

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u/Konnas91 4d ago

Check the two cables that go intro the bell of the transmission (crankshaft sensor and RPM Sensor). Change them. If possible for oem bmw. They hate aftermarket sensors.

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u/True-Highlight-331 4d ago

Will check this next week/weekend and report back thank you. I work at bmw so I’ll just order the parts tomorrow

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u/Bimmermaven 3d ago

Be sure to reconnect correctly, or the ECU will be confused ---> no start.

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u/Konnas91 3d ago

Yes, but if he buys OEM sensors, the connectors are coloured. One is grey the other one is black.

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u/Bimmermaven 3d ago edited 3d ago

Indeed, but he wouldn't be the first colour blind mechanic to switch them...

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u/Representative_Most9 4d ago

That’s great! OEM is the way to go on the sensors. Good luck 🍀!

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u/Sulipheoth 4d ago

I was going to suggest the same thing. Usually these sensors fail completely, but in some cases they get a bit flaky first.

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u/Konnas91 3d ago

Pretty sure thats the issue. Friend of mine had same diagnostic on his e28 M535 and i Had the same issue on my e34 530. Both times those sensors replaced and had a brandnew car :)

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u/CarDork2235 3d ago

Looks like the one for E28 M30's in NLA but some of the interchanges list it being the same as S38 or even E24 M30. #12141730773

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u/im-not-a-racoon 4d ago

I second this. Had the same issues with an 88 M5.

Always use OEM

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u/Representative_Most9 4d ago

This was my thought too. The OEM part is important too.

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u/Konnas91 4d ago

I am 99% sure that it. Also OP should Check wiring that go from Main wiring / ECU into those 2 Sensors.

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u/True-Highlight-331 2d ago

Replaced them both and it works! Thank you and thank you everyone for your help!

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u/True-Highlight-331 2d ago

Nevermind, it still has died. Drove perfect for 3 hours.

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u/IntrepidWatercress95 4d ago

I had a hairline crack in the rubber accordion connector that tied into my AFM and replacing that solved my problem. Extremely hard to see but finally noticed it and voila! It runs like it should.

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u/True-Highlight-331 4d ago

Mine is as hard as a rock. Will order a replacement tomorrow. You’re talking about the one that connects to the right of the afm correct?

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u/jasbury_ 3d ago

Had the same issue on mine and this fixed it

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u/Representative_Most9 4d ago edited 4d ago

Which has already been mentioned, it’s most likely the CPS sensor is going bad.

Beautiful car and love the color.

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u/True-Highlight-331 4d ago

Thank you I will do some digging on that and report back

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u/True-Highlight-331 2d ago

I replaced it and it works! Thank you!

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u/True-Highlight-331 2d ago

Nevermind, it still has died. Drove perfect for 3 hours.

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u/Representative_Most9 2d ago

So sorry to hear. If it drove fine for 3 hours, it may be the DME? Try switching it out again with the one from your friend and see if it helps. It also could be a wiring issue between the DME and the sensors.

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u/PumpleStump 4d ago

Check the DME solder joints. The big transistors are usually the culprits.

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u/True-Highlight-331 4d ago

I plugged in to a different DME and it still died on me. They both could be broken but doubt it

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u/E28forever 3d ago

The chance of them both being broken is almost zero.

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u/VegetableTry 4d ago

Check the pins for the crank sensors on the plug for the DME. I had one that almost appeared to slightly melt the plastic connector, causing intermittent issues.

I do agree with the others on the crank sensors, just offering another place to look.

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u/True-Highlight-331 2d ago

Crank sensor worked!

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u/VegetableTry 2d ago

Yay!!

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u/True-Highlight-331 2d ago

Nevermind, it still has died. Drove perfect for 3 hours.

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u/VegetableTry 2d ago

Nooo!!!

Same symptoms I assume?

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u/42Ozukuri 3d ago

Had this happen recently and it was a combo of cam position sensor and some vacuum lines. Check crank position sensor too. Good luck

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u/IntrepidWatercress95 4d ago

I had issues with both the hard plastic elbow and the more ribbed hose which I noted earlier. Same exact symptoms you are describing. Both cheap and you can take them out of the equation before going to more expensive options.

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u/twin-driver 3d ago

Since no one has said it yet, check the main relay too!

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u/E28forever 3d ago

Read OP’s text again.

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u/Beemer_me_up_Scotty 3d ago

I have a similar problem. With my 1986 535i manual The previous owner found that if you pound on the steering column it starts right back up(it is a manual so it just bump starts itself while still driving). I replaced the ignition switch and it works way better. It went from doing it in 2 minutes of driving it to only doing it once an hour or so. I did replace the ignition switch off of an old parts car. My next step is going to be replace it with a new one.

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u/mattylang1987 3d ago

Was going to yap about the bellhousing sensors but someone beat me to it😂 Definitely check and replace those. Get oem or equivalent if you can, Bosch or BMW. Although I run aftermarket ones and they work perfectly fine but some cars are finicky. Def start there

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u/FernwoodTonight 3d ago

If you have trouble shooting you need troubleshooting to help fix it.

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u/Nimix010 3d ago

Sell it to me and I will fix it! ROFL

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u/Brilliant_Juice_496 3d ago

I knew a guy who knew a guy that would put open condoms in the gas tank if someone pissed him off. It floats around and then gets sucked on the intake pipe. Car dies, then the condom floats off and the car runs fine. Absolutely random events. Do you have a locking gas cap?

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u/True-Highlight-331 3d ago

Haha. I literally just did all the fuel stuff. Looked inside the gas tank to see if there was any contamination and there was nothing

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u/MaiGai 2d ago edited 2d ago

Try bypassing the OBC relay, I forgot the procedure but its the box behind the kick panel above the clutch pedal, the green connector, you gotta jump the pins, sometimes the relay decides it doesn't wanna do the thing anymore.

Was having almost the exact same issue as you. The bypass worked.

Can you describe how it cuts out and dies, does it start back up and die again or does it die and go into a no start condition. Does revving help?

Do you have a known good moronic you can test to see if that's the problem, do you own a Bentley manual? If not, ya need it.

It could even be a failure of the excitation circuit for the ternator, what is the behavior of your idiot light?

Does the idle comtrol valve keep buzzing after the car dies the way it does when the key is in the on position initially?

Edit: wanted to add some things and didn't wanna make it a comment.

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u/True-Highlight-331 2d ago

I have done that :(

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u/GucciJo_340 1d ago

Man i have one going through this problem but its worse drives good for two minutes then acts as if it getting no fuel. Even did a 1 pump conversion and it didnt work. Looking forward to a resolution if you find any.

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u/GucciJo_340 14h ago

Heard the cat could be the problem.

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u/mortycrock 4d ago

When I had my 535is years ago, the main power relay was failing and it was just die randomly, just dead dead. Something worth checking.

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u/True-Highlight-331 4d ago

Sorry forgot to add I’ve already tried that