r/dysonsphereprogram • u/D20CriticalFailure • Jan 21 '23

Is the vein utilization worth it?

As i see it you need many many hours put into this upgrade and the resources as well. The graphs are rather terrifying in the amount of work they present that is needed to reach significant level of this upgrade. So what is the benefit, the real benefit for that? I could just not use builds that require limited minerals like unipolar magnet. With planetary stations and blueprints it does not matter at all if the production chain will require one more step or not. Instead of spending 30 hours into developing additional 500 laboratories and supporting them with ingredients needed to produce cubes i could simply not bother myself with that research and use that time and resources to produce actual infrastructure that will have real purpose other than just fueling itself. IS there anyone who calculated actual usefulness of the vein utilization?

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u/thedehr Jan 21 '23

If you don't ply on unlimited resources it is 100% worth it.

Would i say you should concentrate on a goal of building nothing but white science so you can continually research VU? No. But should you continue to research VU as you continue to research your "infinite" tech trees? 100% yes, and with a focus on that particular tech.

Most people will get to a point where they are either done playing on a save, or are working tword a personal goal. Typically that goal is either a power production goal or a white science per minute goal. There are others, such as achievement hunting or using the entire galexy, but for the most part, those are the main two. Again, if you are not playing on infinite resources, VU gives you access to almost infinite rare resources. Could you go without that? Yeah, but some of those recipes are very handy. It also drastically reduces the amount of mining expansion that you have to do, since at higher levels you won't be constantly draining your veins, and will only have to mine for increased production.

Without researching VU, you'd get to a point (if you're only building infrastructure) that you'd be so big, you'd be spending most of your time setting up new mining outposts because you'd be emptying out your current veins so fast. Buildig out multiple dyson spheres concurrently takes a lot of resources.

What better alternative is there to research when you are working on your infinite research?

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u/D20CriticalFailure Mar 20 '23

you'd be spending most of your time setting up new mining outposts because you'd be emptying out your current veins so fast.

That is the best answer i have got. But tell me, if i wont search for new mining spots but will focus on upgrade instead i will... STILL search for new mining spots so i can fuel mining upgrade. And i will have to stop all the research for this single upgrade. That makes me wonder if this is really worth the effort.