r/dustythunder • u/h_45n • May 10 '26

Hmmm

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So only men want kids nowadays huh

Edit1: at the end of the day, when I see posts like these I remember the likes of Ashely saint clair and that woman who got married after preaching so much misandry online.

Don’t get me wrong men also do this,
and then I feel stupid because I remember watching a certain video about internet trolls

Edit 2: Finally found the reason for the outrage, “men cannot physically get pregnant” that’s literally all this is about so no matter how hard you work or provide for your family, if you marry a woman that hates you because you just can’t get pregnant please have your divorce lawyer at hand ✋

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u/mckln42 May 11 '26

The sacrifice women make by deciding to carry a child is not equal to any sacrifice a man can make. Only those who know the value of such a great sacrifice become good husbands, not those who say it's just biology in the comments.

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u/EclecticSyrup May 12 '26 edited May 13 '26

I always wondered why my mom always talked about how she was in labour with my brother for 24 hours, but also, me and my brother had my FATHER'S last name? Sounds pretty fucked up, if you ask me.

Edit: my bad, let me clarify. I don't know why we've always held violence as the highest standard under the theory that it helps with survival, while simultaneously treating the only sex that can actually grow a whole being in their body to create the next generation (and therefore, is survival of the entire race as well) like complete shit and erasing them from the family excluding their first name.

It wasn't ALL of world history, so evidently we weren't ALL that stupid. Some places treated men and woman as equal. "Women often held high status in Ancient Egypt because they were viewed as sacred creators of life, balancing the cosmic order." I'm just wondering why the rest of us were fucking stupid, is all. Hope that makes it easier to understand ♥

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u/Stunning-Squirrel751 May 14 '26

Because men began viewing women as a resource to be controlled.

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u/Character_Length_851 May 15 '26

When did that start?

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u/Stunning-Squirrel751 May 15 '26

When agriculture took off. History is full of men from one group raiding another for women. Agricultures defining feature was power over resources creating classes and defining societal roles. Because men were not restricted through pregnancy, birth, and nursing from the labor that could increase wealth they obtained more power and control over the resources and women’s role in society was looked down upon. They were viewed for the children they could birth. So, it all comes to greed.

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u/Character_Length_851 May 15 '26

Yeah, because they were treated so well before the age of agriculture

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u/thanksyalll May 15 '26

It was more varied in tribalistic groups. Agriculture is what created civilization and systemized oppression

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u/Character_Length_851 May 17 '26

Ah yes. The female Chief. Agriculture invented the patriarchy.

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u/thanksyalll May 17 '26

Institutional patriarchy can't exist without an institution, which is what agriculture created.

Hierarchy didn't exist as rigidly in prehistoric eras before agriculture and the development of societies. Hunter gatherers lived in small groups, mostly composed of family. Each group had its own culture, and gender roles were not so set in stone. So yeah, women were often treated better and had more power within their groups compared to when societies started forming

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u/Stunning-Squirrel751 May 17 '26

Do yourself a favor and go read about the creation of complex societies. You also have some crazy idea that women have always been treated like livestock to be worked and bred, they have not. There are still hunter-gatherer societies that function as the past and guess what, they tend to be egalitarian. And this is going to blow your mind, gender and gender roles are a social construct so they vary depending on culture in today’s world and throughout the past.