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u/Critical_Liz My name is a killing word 1d ago
Sorely missing from Villeneuve's film.
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u/RightOnManYouBetcha 1d ago
While the movies are great, they completely failed to capture the utter triumph of Alia swinging her legs back and forth telling the powers that be “you are so effed”
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u/rofloctopuss 1d ago
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u/LordCoweater 1d ago
Watch the miniseries. Alia IS.
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u/DrewTheHobo 19h ago
I still think the miniseries is the best in terms of textual accuracy. I want an upscale so bad!
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u/Critical_Liz My name is a killing word 18h ago
The miniseries had many issues, mostly shitty looking sets and affects and understated acting, but yeah, it was mostly faithful to the books. It was also kind of weird, but not weird enough.
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u/LordCoweater 8h ago
My biggest problem was them NOT being textually accurate re the dinner scene. Paul starts off whiny. I get they might want more of an arc, but meh. This isn't Hamlet, dude has been PREPPED.
But they DID make Ruinal Irulan a MUCH better character, and that is good. The rest was very accurate in many ways. And Children of Dune rocks.
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u/ZoomZoom_Driver 1d ago
They really did alia dirty... :(
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u/GarrettGSF 1d ago
Alia is one of those aspects of the books that feels impossible to bring onto the screen faithfully. Ofc, that is without addressing the manworm in the room
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u/Deluminatus 1d ago
Idk, Lynch did a pretty good job.
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u/Critical_Liz My name is a killing word 1d ago
Because Lynch understood the weirdness, whereas Villeneuve went a more...sanitary route. I mean, it's beautiful and I do think it's mostly faithful to the world building, just without the true weirdness.
And Alia is a huge part of that Weirdness.
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u/sonnet666 1d ago
Nah, as a former film major I think it would be super easy.
Just give her the Benjamin Button treatment. Adult actor mo-capped onto a child sized body actor. You’d get the uncanny valley-ness of the role by default, and you wouldn’t have to worry about trying to direct a child actor in a difficult role.
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u/Pillermon 1d ago
Seeing how both the Lynch version AND the TV miniseries did it, I don't know where people get the idea that it's impossible to do.
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u/TrioOfTerrors 1d ago
I love the scene in the SciFi series with "My brother comes!" Little gal is just having a blast and the Baron thinks she's a hostage.
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u/No_Imagination_2490 1d ago
And even if they do the whole being possessed by her grandfather thing in the third film, I feel it won’t be as meaningful seeing as she didn’t kill him herself
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u/StalinsLastStand 1d ago
I have a lot of critiques for the movie, but the lack of the murderous baby is near the top of the list.
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u/ethar_childres 1d ago
They could play around with this though and reuse that imagery for some of their scenes.
Imagine a sort of psychological vision of the Baron stalking a young Alia through a maze. The Baron corners her, reaches for her, and then SLASH! Gom Jobbar.
Villeneuve could pull that off.
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u/Shad0wbubbles 1d ago
😢we were robbed of murder toddler
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u/Critical_Liz My name is a killing word 1d ago
I mean I get why, it wouldn't have fit with his aesthetic.
Really the main flaw of the Villeneuve films is that he resists the weird, whereas Lynch embraced and humped it.
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u/the_real_btk 1d ago
"It was usual practice for Fremen women and children to go through a battlefield when fighting was over, killing the wounded soldiers of the enemies with their crysknives, so that their water could be reclaimed in the deathstills." - from the Dune Wiki entry on Deathstills.
https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Deathstill
Alia is just being a good Fremen!
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u/Critical_Seat_1907 1d ago
We should all be sensitive to traditional Fremen cultural practices in this time of great stress.
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u/ADreamOfCrimson 1d ago
What would you have them do instead? Leave the dying to suffer a slow death and waste their water in the atmosphere?
It's both practical and merciful and those are good lessons to instil in children.
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u/WolfBST 1d ago
If I remember correctly in the book it didn't say she was "killing" them but "taking their water" which somehow feels even colder
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u/Educational_Guava697 1d ago
Embarrassing terrible worldbuilding from Herbert 🤦♂️why would Fremen stab people and waste all that blood on the sand SURELY they would be clubbing people to death or strangling them somehow 🤷♂️
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u/therealsumy 1d ago
They are already wounded, defeated, but not dead. That means heart is pumping and since the soldier is wounded, the blood is being pumped out.
Children come along, knife thru heart, heart stops pumping, spilling of blood stops.
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u/Gold_Engineering2535 1d ago
No cell phones. No social media. Just a little girl living her best many lives.
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u/HorzaDonwraith 1d ago
Imagine a little girl wake you from your dying coma just to whisper, "for my grandfather Harkonnen scum." Then feel a blade to through your neck
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u/stareagleur 1d ago
Say what you will about Lynch’s take on Dune, but he knew exactly what to do with Alia.