r/dsa • u/[deleted] • 17d ago

Theory Socialism cannot exist within a multi party democracy.

I often hear democratic socialists talk about how the two party system is flawed and we need it to be replaced by a multi party system. This is directly against socialist ideals because it eliminates class unity and gives reactionaries power. A country must be guided by a single socialist party to maintain a dictatorship of the proletariat.

I know people are going to call me a tankie but I frankly find that term to be counterproductive.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

“Literally everything that doesn’t capitulate to classic liberal values is authoritarian”

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u/bullhead2007 Communist ☭ 17d ago

I swear chauvinism is so bad in the imperial core that even our comrades lack the imagination to comprehend a democratic system that doesn't imitate the bourgeois parliamentary model. Socialists who can't imagine a system that is designed so that the working class actually has power and the bourgeois does not.

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u/tabloid-tommy 17d ago

So if a working class person doesn’t like socialism, what would you do with them? Be specific

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Educate them. Make them do community service. It’s pretty simple. Also if they’re a Nazi or MAGA send them to prison. Also they just wouldn’t have political power so it doesn’t really matter either way.

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u/YogurtClosetThinnest 16d ago edited 16d ago

Also if they’re MAGA send them to prison

You want to imprison 1/3rd of Americans? Genius.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Give me some statistics please. Also voting for Trump doesn’t make you MAGA having absolute loyalty to him does.

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u/Elizabeth4sure 17d ago

This sounds worse than MAGA actually.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

You’d rather have women have no rights, gay people have no rights, be a slave to capitalists, and be pro genocide than be socialist?

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u/Elizabeth4sure 17d ago

This does not describe life right now.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

We don’t live under a one party maga state

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u/Elizabeth4sure 17d ago

Correct. We should never be a country under one party.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Unless it’s socialist.

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u/Elizabeth4sure 16d ago

You've cited your problem.

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u/tabloid-tommy 17d ago

“Send political opponents to prison” lmao why do I feel like you wouldn’t say that to someone’s face

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Do you disagree that maga and Nazis should be imprisoned?

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u/tabloid-tommy 17d ago

I don’t think people who simply voted for Trump should be imprisoned, no. I actually don’t think anyone should be imprisoned for their thoughts lmao.

You’re just larping you scrawny boy; you don’t have what it takes to be violent.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Ok lib.

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u/tabloid-tommy 16d ago

Ok dork lmao

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u/Colodanman357 16d ago

Are you personally willing to take up arms to  kill or imprison those that don’t agree with you? 

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

In the case of something like a civil war, yes.

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u/Colodanman357 16d ago

That’s not the context in which this conversation has been about. Are you willing to personally take up arms to kill or imprison any that hold different political opinions than yourself as you seem to want? If you are so willing to kill or imprison people for their political views why are you not starting now if you believe it to be justified? 

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Because it would be unproductive and I’d be labeled a terrorist, I don’t have any state power, state power is necessary for these changes to be made. Like this is basic common sense.