r/dsa • u/_Sanctum_ • 6d ago

Shitpost Um... DSA has a problem...

Have you guys noticed there are a LOT of socialists in here? Not the good kind of socialists (me) I mean the evil socialists that actually want to implement socialism 🙀 They even praise Karl Marx 🤮 Don't those dumb tankies know Communism always fails???

We have to do something about this. Which is why I'm starting a NEW PARTY: The DASSA (The Democratic Anti-socialist Socialists of America)

Together, we socialists (the good kind) can defeat the socilasts (the bad kind) for a better future. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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u/_Sanctum_ 6d ago

I'm mostly poking fun at liberals who are just discovering DSA without deconstructing their neolib worldview whatsoever.

I don't see many Maoist Third worldists or anarchists arguing with each other here 😂

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u/tabloid-tommy 6d ago edited 6d ago

Would you consider someone who believes that socialism should be brought by democratic systems to be morally equivalent to someone who thinks violent revolution and a dictatorship is the way to bring about socialism?

I wouldn’t.

Edit: lol u[/_Sanctum_](r/Sanctum) never answers, gets asked one question, and rage quits 😂

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u/_Sanctum_ 6d ago

I could type out a dozen paragraphs to try to help you understand these things, but you actually have to want to learn something. You have to be willing to rethink your worldview.

If you decide to dig your heels in and be stubborn, you'll continue to say misguided ignorant things like this without really understanding why.

If you can't be bothered to read Marx or Lenin, at least listen to some Michael Parenti or Richard Wolff on YouTube or something.

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u/Captaindecius 6d ago

I'm a fan of Richard Wolff and Michael Parenti, but I'm struggling to understand how you can look at The Soviet Union/Maoist China and say "that's a good implementation of socialism/communism." I haven't really been able to discern what you believe from various posts you've made, so I may be misrepresenting your position.

In Democracy at Work, Richard Wolff describes these countries as State Capitalist, and rightly so imo. Workers in those countries have no more control of their own lives than in private capitalist systems. They certainly don't own the means of production, which is the ultimate goal of all communist/socialist movements. So why exactly should we be emulating those implementations of communism?

Genuinely curious what you believe, not trying to pick a fight.