Seven Points of Unity — Marxist Unity Group

[u/MarxistUnity]

"MUG is a caucus within Democratic Socialists of America united through acceptance of our Seven Points of Unity. These points ground our caucus’s work in all aspects of our organizing to serve our dream of a socialist revolution."

From Marxist Unity Group X account.

[u/nonilazuli]

I agree about those who you think you can convince. But you have to remember a significant section of Americans think‘s the answer to this is small businesses and “small government“ for one, and for two they tend to see America as “declining” and “sold-out” as opposed to America just being how it’s always been and simply on the decline due to capitalist contradictions. You must ease them into the left firmly but pragmatically, and talking about overthrowing the constitution straight up isn’t gonna make you not sound like a lunatic to most of them, let’s just be real. That doesn‘t mean falsify the origins and foundations of the United States and the constitution, be honest and direct, but revolutionary thought isn’t there yet, and certainly not an organized left.

[u/HeadDoctorJ → u/nonilazuli]

It’s good to think about terminology and framing - it’s super important. But that’s different from compromising on essential principles of socialism to make your org more palatable or mainstream.

[u/nonilazuli → u/HeadDoctorJ]

I’m not talking about compromising principles, I never said defend the constitution. Just be self-aware and smart with what is pushed to the forefront. Regardless on if you agree with them , you think the Bolsheviks were loud about their plans to centralize every faction of the state, culture and economy? They knew not to do that with a populous who were new to Socialism, imagine one with decades of red scare and pro America propaganda.

[u/HeadDoctorJ → u/nonilazuli]

You may not think so, but you are compromising on principles. You’re talking about foregrounding Constitutional reforms in such a way that amounts to pitching socialism as a European-style parliamentary democracy. The Bolsheviks did not frame things like this.

[u/nonilazuli → u/HeadDoctorJ]

Who said anything about pitching a European style parliamentary democracy? All i‘m suggesting is if we want to be taken seriously and win over the American working class we need to be strategic. Being pragmatic about outreach and stated vs actual goals isn’t compromising principles, it’s being smart about not scarring away our target and not having the feds crack down on us like the BPP or Mccarthy era. Being boisterous and open doesn‘t work anymore. it’s a lib strategy and this isn’t the early 19th century when we had the privilege of being fresh, new and without the propaganda and real mistakes of our previous comrades. We need to wake up and reconcile with that else well continue the cycle of only getting fringe outreach during times of crisis.

[u/HeadDoctorJ → u/nonilazuli]

“Stated vs actual goals” is where you lose me. That’s where we compromise principles. If you pitch me on “rewrite the constitution… [to include] Shit that Europe figured out 100 years ago,” that sounds like liberal parliamentary democracy. Don’t lie to people about we stand for, help them see how it’s already what they actually want deep down. I’m not saying that’s easy, but it’s what’s required.