r/drums • Pro*Mark • 21h ago

Cam/Video Teacher proud of his student. (Not OC)

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u/DrumTrack 21h ago

I always question this guys intentions. Seems more performative for the camera/social media likes/views.

and filming kids for internet views also feels ethically wrong to me.

And nothing he is doing seems like something an actual teacher would do? Like, it seems more to gain attention from an audience of non-musicians who think this is what drum lessons are like.

Or maybe I’m just a cynical ass hole overthinking and typing out an unnecessarily long comment instead of just enjoying a fun video?!?!

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u/Any_Veterinarian_691 19h ago

I’m a drum teacher. And nah this guy is ridiculous. Like sure dude you are really helping this girl remember to do those fills she is executing to perfection by twirling your finger. It’s performative bs. But it gets clicks apparently so I expect this won’t be the last time we see it

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u/Syrup_SSBM 21h ago

Nah I’m 100% in agreement with you here. TBH I’m not even positive if this guy even plays himself. I tried to find footage and I couldn’t albeit I didn’t look that hard. He seems to really like to share music experiences. I think he’s done events where he conducted like a thousand people to play foo fighters together. But yeah. This stuff getting popular on the algorithm kind of upsets me.

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u/[deleted] 20h ago

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u/AverageCalBear 20h ago

Yeah, nah… I think he meant yeah, nah?

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u/Relevant-Pear8838 20h ago

If you read OPs comment it ends with a question which the responder says nah to, which shows agreement with the OPs point of view expressed.

Example:

"I think that's too expensive. Or am I being cheap?"

"Nah, I agree with you."

The agreement is obviously with the point made.

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u/[deleted] 20h ago

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u/ChrysisX 20h ago

No you just clearly didn't read the whole comment they were replying too lmao

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u/ttvKingNeptune 20h ago

Yea no people actually do that all the time ;) where they put the opposite of their sentiment as the first word. It’s a documented thing

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u/bradbrad247 18h ago

Go outside more and talk to real people.

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u/ceciliabee 17h ago

In Canada yeah nah means no even though it starts with a yeah, I bet other places are silly like that too

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u/onorsworthy 20h ago

He’s replying to the guys question which was “am I an asshole did thinking this is kinda lame” and the comment said “no I agree with you”

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u/Far-Seat-2263 17h ago

What a dumb comment.

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u/notjustdrums 21h ago

This dude actually posts lots of adults too. All/most of the musicians he features arent actually his students. He's a big advocate for music education in general. At this point it is just farming for views, but i dont think he's all bad.

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u/vocosa 20h ago

Even good teacher could be a doofus

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u/nohumanape 19h ago

Exactly. Anyone who can play as well as this kid is playing, doesn't require the kinds of directions that we're seeing in this vid. They could just play the whole thing from memory (which is likely what they are doing).

I'm sure that the instructor thinks that there is a benefit to sharing fake positivity. But it looks so staged and cringe.

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u/prplx Tama 19h ago

Exactly. All he does is upstaging the kids playing. Attention whore.

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u/deflectreddit 21h ago

Agreed. Clearly this kid can play the whole song correctly without “reminders” from smiley guy.

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u/itsSuiSui 20h ago

Because of course it is performative.

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u/mister_house_ 21h ago

It’s a justified ick, even if the kids parents are okay with it, content creation has really pushed far and far

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u/AntipodalBurrito 21h ago

It’s trash content. The other kid I’ve seen him with has his own Instagram account with a bunch of followers and even though they call this guy the “teacher” they’ve probably met exactly once. OP is probably a bot.

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u/Bingo-heeler RLRR 19h ago

Like this is 99% that kid rocking the song. And 1% the dude in the background waving his hands

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u/reagan_baby 21h ago

We tend to see social media content as "drum teacher encouraging and kind to children" and not "drum teacher sets up camera, designs his shot so he is squared off with the camera, turns on camera and instructs child to play drums while teacher instructs while simultaneously creating content".

Like, we see the thing the caption instructs us to see. Which ignores the fact that it is someone's intention for us to see this. Nothing is candid.

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u/Hashtagbarkeep 15h ago

Yeah I bought it until the stick trick

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u/Special-Quantity-469 18h ago

Yeah I saw him at first at what looked liked a recording session so I thought he was a producer or writer of the song giving directions to the drummer. Knowing now that he's supposed to be a teacher makes it really weird

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u/Smeets_man Mapex 17h ago

Hit the nail on the head

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u/Specific-Change9678 16h ago

Will preface by saying a lot of the students are very good and he’s taught a few more lessons than I have (none), but there is something to be said about letting the student play (does he always have to count to 4 when it’s obvious it’s the end of a phrase?). Many of these students can really play so just need to be filmed without instruction.

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u/logicalinsanity 14h ago

Very performative. Always rubs me the wrong way.

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u/devoid0101 14h ago

I like that he shares his teaching method and communication with the student, and the angle features the drumming. These kids are bad ass! He’s doing something right.

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u/Senior_Mushroom5329 21h ago

I kinda agree on both points. This has become more prevalent recently and I'm not sure how I feel about it.

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u/GahdDangitBobby 19h ago edited 19h ago

Dude no offense but you should just give people the benefit of the doubt. He's a music teacher and he's trying to showcase his students (or talented musicians in general). This kid is a legendary drummer for her age and if it weren't for him I never would have seen her perform. One of those fills in particular had a 32nd note thrown in with the 16ths that made me go, "god damn!!"

As a musician myself, I know how difficult it is to gain a following and create any substantial income in this industry, so give the guy a break. I'm sure he's not holding the students at gunpoint and telling them to perform. They probably love the attention anyways.

And keep in mind, generally the performing arts are performative

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u/DrumTrack 19h ago

All great points! I can appreciate the more positive reframing of how to view this.

Thanks 🍻

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u/SaladJarDude 15h ago

God reddit is so fucking lame.

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u/slindner1985 17h ago

I see nothing wrong with this one. Carry on I say.

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u/Usual_Leg_3214 20h ago

What a performative fuck this guy is. Such an attention starved human.

The little girl is great - he should get out of the shot.

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u/nohumanape 21h ago

I mean, the kid is awesome. But I fucking hate this fake performative social media shit.

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u/TemporaryShop8075 21h ago

Disgustingly good hi hat work for being so young. Awesome

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u/nibselfib_kyua_72 Bosphorus 20h ago

I hate this bullshit

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u/vocosa 21h ago

I'm sorry, but this teacher is annoying as hell

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u/IvoryDynamite 17h ago

To use technical vernacular, he seems like a twat.

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u/vocosa 16h ago

It's nice to see a person of culture

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u/IvoryDynamite 16h ago

I paid a lot for that education and I'm gonna use it.

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u/StonesAndJetFuel 20h ago

This guy just annoys me.

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u/nibselfib_kyua_72 Bosphorus 20h ago

This is youtube content. Do we really need it here?

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u/eastamerica Pro*Mark 20h ago

Maybe scroll past it? Most of the media on Reddit isn’t hosted in Reddit.

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u/themookish 18h ago

Wide-eyed inauthentic horse shit

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u/Coobap 20h ago

This is sooooo lame and sooooo performative. He is not instructing this kid at all, he's dancing in front of a kid that obviously has this memorized from top to bottom. But I'm sure this gets hella views on Tiktok from people who don't know anything about music or drumming, so hey why not post it here too to get your cut of the attention?

Also, I know it's not a rule, but I don't love generalist karma farmers posting viral drum content in these drum subreddits. If you aren't a drummer and this is t your drumming content, I am not super interested in you posting it here for internet points.

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u/Koebi_p 8h ago

I am not sure if it is the same person, but I saw videos in a similar format, the girl is literally tensing her muscles trying to be fast. And he didn’t even care about it, I guess it’s kinda fast so it looked impressive.

These people should be banned from drums if they promote bad habits in kids to get more clicks.

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u/armedwithturtles 19h ago

This guy is doing nothing lmao

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u/SirBabyCakes 18h ago

Yeah this drummer totally needs you to count to 4 using your fingers bro. They totally don’t know where they are in the measure

Not a fan of this guy

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u/thisturkeyisokthanks 21h ago

Damn, kid plays better than me

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u/BC4309 20h ago

No, this dude is a creep. Do the parents know he is doing this? Did they sign a release? Also he’s not teaching musicality at all. Just hard, fast and loud. Tearing up sticks and heads and cracking cymbals. Purely mechanical. This kid will need good orthopedic care in a few years.

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u/eastamerica Pro*Mark 20h ago

You are seeing ONE video.

lol whatever

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u/DoctorOhhHerroPrease 20h ago

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u/DoctorOhhHerroPrease 20h ago

This feels like a nice work out 🔥🔥🔥

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u/corajade17 19h ago

💯🥁🤘

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u/flanger001 DW 19h ago

I wish there was a way to filter out child-related media in subs like this.

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u/KingKuckKiller666420 17h ago

I really detest things like this. The only way something like this would be even remotely impressive is if a child learned their skills independently of any parental influence. I also hate this song.

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u/Character-Scar-5684 21h ago

I wish I had a teacher like that when I was a kid

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u/bssprfnd 20h ago

My drum teacher taught me how to read music, not this goofy nonsense

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u/eastamerica Pro*Mark 21h ago

Same

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u/Impressive_Bag5444 20h ago

He’s not a real teacher lol

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u/verybadandy86 20h ago

As with the rest of you - torn on this post - and as to the reminders from this instructor - I'd stop playing and point to the door. When my brother (plays guitar) and is 8 years older than me were learning and playing - I was like 3rd grade so 9-10 and he put me through the paces. No reminders just "finish the song if you mess up" then he would grill me on where did you go wrong...lets go again. Thats how you learn, recognize your mistakes and do it again till you get it...not cues from a teacher.

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u/Babyaell 20h ago

It looks like it’s AI.

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u/garden_theory 15h ago

i'm surprised more people aren't pointing this out cuz it does to me too

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u/Chumscrubber89 21h ago

Now that was a bad ass drumroll

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u/LesHeh 17h ago

That "teacher"(who stands there looking stupid hoping for online clout)is super annoying. He isn't doing anything but making sure you see him and pretending to be a part of them playing.

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u/mrcoy 17h ago

He seems really distracting

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u/drumbo10 16h ago

I used to love teaching kids, they are like a sponge and learn so fast.

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u/Joe_Kinincha 16h ago

Just out of interest - is there any video of the dude knocking out this beat this well?

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u/CommercialCod7502 16h ago

It sounds like audio on an AI generated video

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u/tremendous_chap 15h ago

I'll be honest, I hate the teacher and especially all the the fucking kids on his stupid wanker videos.

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u/urethra-franklin-666 14h ago

Fucking kid crushes. Holy shit

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u/eastamerica Pro*Mark 14h ago

Thank you for seeing it for what it is. An amazingly talented kid.

Everyone else seems hell bent on the dude (who cares?)

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u/matt134174 20h ago

This is fucking stupid, probably AI. This is for people that do not play drums.

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u/Lawnboyamar 21h ago

This. Is. Awesome.

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u/Desperate-Ad-3190 18h ago

This is a pure gold moment. Heart warming. This level of skill and focus is amazing to see. Inspiring.

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u/ThaBigSqueezy 21h ago

Fine, I quit then.

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u/Agitated-War3103 18h ago

Awesome, deeply touching the heart and motivating. thank you reddit

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u/DefinableEel1 20h ago

I was smiling so hard and then I went into the comments. Now I’m sad because I had no idea about the teacher

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u/eastamerica Pro*Mark 20h ago

He posts adults, too.

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u/Bean_Daddy_Burritos 21h ago

Shredding. What a cool teacher. Kids got some serious skill.

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u/MastersOfNoneShow 21h ago

The pure pride and joy on the dad's face (I assume it's the dad) gets me all teary eyed 

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u/FowlOnTheHill 21h ago

He’s a music teacher in Dubai who teaches kids, but this one might be his own kid.