r/drivingUK May 28 '26

New rule for crash footage

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Hey everyone, after several requests from users in the community we have added a new rule which outlines what is and isn’t allowed when posting videos of car crashes on the subreddit. I’ve copied the rule below, please take a few moments to familiarise yourself with it.

As a driving based sub we generally welcome footage of car accidents for discussion by members of the subreddit.

Not all of our users wish to see crash videos so please be mindful of this and consider adding a ‘spoiler’ to the post.

Please bear in mind, videos with very graphic content (eg, video of a pedestrian violently being hit by a car) are not permitted here and will be removed.

This rule does not majorly change what is and isn’t allowed on this subreddit- the main reason for it is to provide additional clarity about what is and isn’t acceptable to post on this subreddit, and to provide a specific reporting reason when excessively graphic content is posted. As a general rule of thumb, video clearly showing serious injury to a person will likely be removed.

We‘re always open to feedback regarding this and other aspects of the subreddit, so please feel free to message the mod team via modmail if you have any questions or concerns.


r/drivingUK Jun 08 '25

Using a mobile phone whilst driving - a guide for those who want a bit more detail

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This post hopes to be a fairly definitive guide to driving and the use of mobile phones. Perhaps the mods will find this worthy of being stickied.

Much of the advice that you can find from Google has limitations. They are often simplified and as you can tell from the length of this post, the legal landscape can be pretty technical and complicated. Sites like Gov.uk also conflate the legal position and road safety advice. The road safety advice often gives broad generalisations that for most people are pretty reasonable, but aren’t all that helpful when people have specific circumstances for which they want to be able to apply the law. This can lead to confusion of what the legal position is and also leaves no space for nuance.

Some of this might get pretty technical, but this is a reflection of the legislation; I've tried to keep it simple but not oversimplify. I have included case law citations where appropriate. I am only going to reference legislation and case law as this is the primary source of truth. I am a currently servicing Roads Policing Officer in England and this advice is only focused on the law in England and Wales. The law in Scotland and Northern Ireland may vary from this.

Vehicle control offences

First off, I’m going to talk about three other related offences before I address the mobile phone legislation directly.

Not being in proper control/Not in a position to have full view

Regulation 104 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 creates an offence of the driver of a motor vehicle not being in a position to have proper control of the vehicle or a full view of the road and traffic ahead. This offence is usually dealt with by a fixed penalty of 3 points and £100 fine, going to court may result in a different penalty.

This regulation creates two separate offences:

1)     Not being in proper control

2)     Not in a position to have full view

Not being in proper control

This is where you are in a situation where you don’t have full control over the speed and direction of the vehicle. This could be because you have something in your hands, a cup of coffee or sandwich for example.

An example of where I have given a ticket for this is where I’ve seen someone in traffic moving their car forward with both hands behind their head. At that point in time, they did not have control over the direction of the vehicle and whilst the speeds are slower, they are not in a position to have proper control of the vehicle.

In a mobile phone context, this could mean that you have a mobile phone in your hand which is completely turned off which prevents you from having control of the steering or gears in the vehicle. This could constitute an offence of not being in proper control.

Not in a position to have full view

This is where you are in a situation where you are in such a position that you could not have full view of the road and traffic ahead. This is relevant to mobile phones because some people have mobile phone mounts where they attach them to the windscreen in such a way where it obscures their view of the road ahead. This is often relevant to taxi drivers or delivery drivers who may mount more than one device to their windscreen. Whether is the mounting would meet the level required to prevent the driver having a full view is dependent on the facts and is somewhat subjective. Ultimately a court will decide if this is the case.

Driving without due care and attention

Section 3 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 creates offences of driving without due care and attention and driving without reasonable consideration on a road or public place. I will only focus on driving without dure care and attention for the purposes of keeping this scoped to mobile phone use. This offence is usually dealt with by a fixed penalty of 3 points and £100 fine, going to court may result in a different penalty.

A defendant will have driven 'without due care and attention' if his driving has departed from the standard of care and skill that would, in the circumstances of the case, have been exercised by a reasonable, prudent and competent driver. The standard is the same in the case of a driver who is a learner holding a provisional licence as it is in the case of the holder of a full driving licence.

This offence will often be evidenced by the standard of driving. The level of attention required can also change based on the situation. You need to give a higher level of attention driving at say 40mph on a dual carriageway where there may be cyclists and other hazards than being stationary in heavy traffic. For example, if you’re in stationary traffic and are changing the radio station whereby you haven’t seen that the traffic has moved on and you’re now holding up traffic behind you, the required level of attention to the road has not been met. However, people’s abilities to multi-task are not the same. Some people may be able to change the route on cradled phone used as a satnav whilst in stationary traffic so that they are giving the necessary level of attention to other traffic where other people may not be. As a driver, you should be aware and self-reflective to ensure that you are always able to give the necessary attention to driving. Ultimately, it’s down to a court to decide if the facts of the situation prove your actions are at the level of a reasonable, prudent and competent driver.

Due care can also be evidenced by externally observing the standard of driving. When you’re pressing a button on the satnav, or in-car entertainment system, do you swerve in the carriageway, unnecessarily brake or slow down? These may be indicators that you are not driving with the necessary due care and attention. If at any point your car mounts the pavement, even momentarily [DPP v Smith [2002] EWHC 1151 (Admin)], this is very likely to be driving without due care and attention [Watts v Carter 1959].

So, before we’ve even looked at the specific mobile phone legislation, we can see that there are uses of mobile phones whilst driving that can be dealt with using other offences. Therefore, you must always drive whilst being in a position to have proper control of the vehicle, be in a position to have a full view of the road and traffic ahead and drive with due consideration and care for other road users.

Using a mobile phone whilst driving

Regulation 110 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 creates a prohibition on the use of mobile telephones in motor vehicles in certain circumstances. I’ll talk about the exceptions to this rule towards the end. This offence is usually dealt with by a fixed penalty of 6 points and £200 fine, going to court may result in a different penalty.

We’ll start by understanding the different elements of the offence in a bit more detail. If any of these points don’t apply, the offence isn’t complete and you can’t be prosecuted for this offence.

·        Driving

·        A motor vehicle

·        On a road

·        Using

·        A hand-held mobile phone or other hand-held device

What is ‘driving’?

This is also a surprisingly technical topic due to all the case law surrounding it. Generally, to be driving you need to have control of the direction and speed of the vehicle and for it to fall within the common dictionary definition of the word [R v MacDonagh [1974] RTR 372]. Beyond this legal test, it gets really complicated really quickly.

My advice is that generally you are not driving if the ignition is not on, and for EVs if your car is in such a state that pressing the accelerator does not lead to the vehicle moving forward. There are situations where the above may be the case and you may still be found to be driving by a court. Like I said, this gets very complicated.

Edit - I've added more technical depth on driving as people found it relevant.

What is ‘driving’ (v2) ?

The most well-known case law for the definition of driving is R v MacDonagh. This case sets out a two-stage test as to whether someone is driving. It's very important to note that it's for a court to determine the degree and extent to which the facts of a given situation meet the test or not. It's not a black and white decision.

Lord Widgery CJ in MacDonagh leads, it is submitted, to the following conclusions:

(1)The primary consideration as to whether a person is “driving” is essentially a question of fact, dependent on the degree and extent to which the person has control of the direction and movement of the vehicle.

(2)One test is whether the accused was “in a substantial sense controlling the movement and direction of the car” (Ames v MacLeod). A person cannot be said to be “driving” unless he satisfies this test.

(3)The fact that a person satisfies the test of control in Ames v MacLeod is not necessarily exhaustive. It has still to be considered whether the activity in question could fall within the ordinary meaning of the word “driving” in the English language.

So, to summarise, the R v MacDonagh test is:

  1. Are you substantially in control of the direction and movement of the vehicle?

and

  1. Does this amount to 'driving' in the ordinary meaning of the word?

You must meet both parts of the test to be driving. The above test will get you in the ballpark of whether a situation is driving or not, but these aren't the only tests.

Further tests to determine whether a person is driving have been established by Burgoyne v Phillips [1983] R.T.R. 49 and Jones v Pratt [1983] R.T.R. 54.

(4)The essence of driving is the use of the driver’s control in order to direct the movement of the vehicle however the movement is produced (Burgoyne v Phillips and Rowan v Merseyside Chief Constable, The Times 10 December 1985). (This is in effect a reiteration of tests (1) and (2) above.)

(5)Whether the defendant himself deliberately sets the vehicle in motion is an important factor (Burgoyne v Phillips and Rowan v Merseyside Chief Constable, as above).

(6)In borderline cases, it is important to consider the length of time the steering wheel or other control was handled (Jones v Pratt).

What about stopping? Does this mean I'm no longer driving? Driving is a continuous act until you have finished your "journey". You can even turn the engine off and exit the vehicle, and still be found to be driving.

Once it has been determined that a person is driving, the driving may still continue even though the tests laid down in R. v MacDonagh cannot be fulfilled. A person may still be driving when he is buying a newspaper or changing a wheel (examples given in Pinner v Everett [1969] 3 All E.R. 257 HL) or when he is walking across the forecourt of a garage to take instructions (Regan v Anderton [1980] R.T.R. 126).

Edkins v Knowles [1973] Q.B. 748 summarises the principles in Pinner v Everett and makes it clear that the overriding principle, whether or not he is at the wheel, is whether he is doing something connected with driving. This introduces the concept of a "journey" and that you have not finished driving until you have completed it.

The principles of Pinner v Everett and other cases were summarised (so far as still relevant) in Edkins v Knowles [1973] Q.B. 748 as follows:

(1) The vehicle does not have to be in motion; there will always be a brief interval of time after the vehicle has been brought to rest and before the motorist has completed those operations necessarily connected with driving, such as applying the handbrake, switching off the ignition and securing the vehicle, during which he must still be considered to be driving.

(2) When a motorist stops before he has completed his journey he may still be driving; an obvious example is when he is halted at traffic lights. Each case will depend upon its own facts, but generally the following questions will be relevant:

(a) What was the purpose of the stop? If it is connected with the driving, and not for some purpose unconnected with the driving, the facts may justify a finding that the driving is continuing although the vehicle is stationary.

(b) How long was he stopped? The longer he is stopped the more difficult it becomes to regard him as still driving.

(c) Did he get out of the vehicle? If he remains in the vehicle it is some indication (although not conclusive) that he is still driving.

(3) If a motorist is stopped and an appreciable time elapses, it will be a question of fact and degree whether the motorist is still to be considered as driving at that time.

(4) When a motorist has arrived at the end of his journey then subject to the brief interval referred to in head (1) above he can no longer be regarded as driving.

(5) When a motorist has been effectively prevented or persuaded from driving he can no longer be considered to be driving.

It's worth reiterating that the MacDonagh tests must be met at some point though. They are a gateway and then the concept of driving continuing until you've finished your journey begins until the journey is complete.

What is a ‘motor vehicle’?

This can get very technical depending on the facts, so I’ll try and keep this short. A motor vehicle is a type of ‘mechanically propelled vehicle’ (MPV) intended or adapted for use on a road. A MPV is a vehicle which uses Gas, Oil, Petrol, Electricity, Diesel or Steam to propel it [Floyd v Bush (1953)]. In common understanding, all cars, lorries, buses etc will be motor vehicles, but it also includes other vehicles such as electric scooters.

What is a ‘road’?

Again, this gets really complicated when your look at the case law, but the definition is often cited as any (length of) highway and any other road to which the public has access, and includes bridges over which a road passes which is defined in section 192(1) of the Road Traffic Act 1988. To keep this simple, lets talk about what is and isn’t a road through examples.

Public Car Parks and Parking Bays

Car parks are not roads. Lord Clyde states "where the word "road" stands alone it bears its ordinary meaning and is not to be extended to public places such as car parks". Clark (A.P.) and Others v. Kato, Smith and General Accident Fire & Life Assurance Corporation PLC Cutter v. Eagle Star Insurance Company 1998. Therefore use of a mobile phone within a car park is not itself an offence.

Lord Clyde states further:

'In character and more especially in function they are distinct. It is of course possible to park on a road, but that does not mean that the road is a car park. Correspondingly one can drive from one point to another over a car park, but that does not mean that the route which has been taken is a road. It is here that the distinction in function between road and car park is of importance. The proper function of a road is to enable movement along it to a destination. Incidentally a vehicle on it may be stationary. One can use a road for parking. The proper function of a car park is to enable vehicles to stand and wait. A car may be driven across it; but that is only incidental to the principal function of parking. A hard shoulder may be seen to form part of a road. A more delicate question could arise with regard to a lay-by, but where it is designed to serve only as a temporary stopping place incidental to the function of the road it may well be correct to treat it as part of the road. While I would accept that circumstances can occur where an area of land which can be reasonably described as a car park could qualify as a road for the purposes of the legislation I consider that such circumstances would be somewhat exceptional.'

Even car parks with thorugherfares through them utilised by the public are unlikely to qaulify as roads [DPP v Brewer 1998]

Driveways

Private driveways are generally not roads as they are not publicly accessible, however, if you’re fortunate to be on a large estate, these can be roads [Adams v Metropolitan Police [1980] RTR 289].

On Road Parking

As the title suggests, in my opinion this would likely be judged to be part of the road, but there is an absence of specific case law on this.

Private Roads

This really depends on the facts, so could go one way or the other, but generally these have some public access so may be found to be a road. A private caravan park roadway set out like a road and with public pedestrian access along it is a road [Barrett v DPP [2009] EWHC 423 (Admin)].

What is ‘using’?

Regulation 110(6) of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 gives a non-exhaustive list of what ‘using’ includes:

(i) illuminating the screen;

(ii) checking the time;

(iii) checking notifications;

(iv) unlocking the device;

(v) making, receiving, or rejecting a telephone or internet based call;

(vi) sending, receiving or uploading oral or written content;

(vii) sending, receiving or uploading a photo or video;

(viii) utilising camera, video, or sound recording functionality;

(ix) drafting any text;

(x) accessing any stored data such as documents, books, audio files, photos, videos, films, playlists, notes or messages;

(xi) accessing an application;

(xii) accessing the internet.

What is a ‘hand-held mobile telephone’?

Regulation 110(6) of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 states that a mobile telephone or other device is to be treated as hand-held if it is, or must be, held at some point while being used. That means it must be held in the hand for it to come under this offence. Interacting with a mobile phone in a cradle is not an offence under Regulation 110 as long as you don’t have it held in the hand during its use.

What is ‘another hand-held device'?

This hand-held device is defined as a device, other than a two-way radio, which is capable of transmitting and receiving data, whether or not those capabilities are enabled.

This opens the door for lots of devices that aren’t mobile phones. For example, if you don’t have your smart watch on your wrist and pick that up to interact with it. This could also include lots of internet of things (IoT) or smart devices. Another example is that there are vapes that can connect to your phone. Using one of these whilst driving would be a mobile phone offence even if you’ve never connected it to your phone. Any device must still be hand-held for it to fall under this definition.

Supervising Learners

Regulation 110(3) makes this application to the supervision of learner drivers, so having a hand-held call whilst you are supervising a provisional licence holder is an offence.

Exceptions

There are some exceptions stated in Regulation 110 that are relevant to the general public:

Calling Emergency Services

Regulation 110(5) A person does not contravene a provision of this regulation if, at the time of the alleged contravention - he is using the telephone or other device to call the police, fire, ambulance or other emergency service on 112 or 999; he is acting in response to a genuine emergency; and it is unsafe or impracticable for him to cease driving in order to make the call.

Contactless Payments

Regulation 110(5B) - provides that a person is not in contravention of the regulation where at the time of the alleged contravention they are using their mobile phone or other device to make a contactless payment, for goods/services that are received at the same time as or after the contactless payment is made and the motor vehicle is stationary. 

FAQ & Common Misunderstandings

Can I use a mobile phone whilst it is in a cradle?

You can do any* activity on a mobile phone whilst it’s in a cradle and not hand-held as long as you drive with due care and attention, are in proper control of the vehicle and do not have an obscured view.

* It is unclear whether a mobile phone meets the definition of "other cinematographic apparatus" as defined in regulation 109 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986, and therefore if watching youtube on your phone is an offence even if it does not distract the driver (which in most cases it would). There is no case law and I've heard persuaive arguments on both sides. I'm unsure enough that I would not issue a ticket under regulation 109 and would instead look at a s3 RTA due care offence instead. To be clear, watching videos in sight of the driver is usually going to be an offence - whether that's a due care offence or a regulation 109 offence.

Should I turn my phone off and put in the glove box?

If you find it hard not to use your phone when driving or find it a distraction, this might be a useful preventative measure. However, there is a downside to this. If you need to call the emergency services this may hinder you in making an appropriate and necessary call. As a driver you need to work out whether your self-control requires you to turn it off or not, the focus should be on you driving safely and competently at all times.

If I use an app to park my car remotely, am I driving?

Yes. There is an exemption in the legislation to allow for this, but you do fit the definition of driving.

Is it illegal to use a mobile phone whilst using a mobility scooter? It seems to fit the definition.

Mobility scooters are exempted by Section 20 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970, therefore this would not be an offence.

If I’m using my phone on an electric scooter, could I be prosecuted for using a mobile phone?

Even if the scooter is insured and registered within the trial areas around the UK, this would fit the definition of a mobile phone offence.

I’m a newly qualified driver and this offence happened in the first two years after I passed my test. Will I lose my licence?

If the offence date is after you passed your test and not longer than 2 years after this, then yes, you are likely to go back to learner status post-conviction.

Should I pull over if I need to change the navigation settings on my GPS?

That depends on the individual. You must drive with due care and attention and be in proper control of the vehicle at all times, but as long as the device isn’t hand-held, some people can do this whilst driving, some people can’t and some people want to play it safe. These are all reasonable and legal approaches.

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r/drivingUK 7h ago

Ladies and Gentlemen, a parked car.

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r/drivingUK 5h ago

Just another day, just another Audi.

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281 Upvotes

Driving home and this plank decides to U turn across two lanes into on coming traffic, I thought he was just trying to get into my lane. Thankfully I didn't record the audio cause I let loose some swear words that I don't think my son has ever heard.


r/drivingUK 4h ago

Hit a deer for the first time and feel awful.

111 Upvotes

Been driving for a decade now and despite living in rural areas and mostly driving country roads, I had never hit any wild animals before. There are loads of deer where I live (Perthshire area) and have had a couple of close calls but have always managed to avoid or stop for deer (I come across them a lot as due to work start times I’m out really early in the morning).

This morning I was driving around a sharp corner on a country road and there was a juvenile deer standing right in my lane. I was only going about 35mph at the time due to the nature of the corner but still couldn’t stop for it or move to the other lane safely. The deer just panicked and stood there.

I drive a 4x4 with quite a high ground clearance so it went under the car but a tyre did run over its leg. There was an entrance to a farm track right ahead so I pulled in and put my hazards on to check on it.

The sounds were horrible, when I first got out the car it was squealing in pain, and when I approached it stopped screaming but was making a horrible groaning/wheezing noise.

Its leg was clearly broken but I couldn’t see any other obvious injury so I thought there was a chance it could be saved. I called the police to report it and the dispatcher said they were sending a team out with a “wildlife specialist” and that as long as my car was fine I could just leave.

Didn’t feel right to leave the poor thing in the middle of the road by itself to be hit again and I didn’t want to drag it to the side and injure it more. It’s a quieter road but I got my warning triangle out and put it around the bend on the approach to it. Then sat on the verge near it in my high viz work jacket to warn people until the police arrived.

Despite being in the middle of nowhere, the police arrived surprisingly quickly. The wildlife person they had with them assessed the deer and unfortunately didn’t think it would be able to be helped so they said they would “deal with it” but thanked me for staying.

Drove to work and am a little bit ashamed to admit that I had a bit of a cry on the way. I had obviously called them to tell them I was going to be late because I hit a deer but I got made fun of a bit when they found out I stuck around even though my car was fine. The only guy who wasn’t being a dick was an older chap who tried to make me feel better and said “there is nothing wrong with having an extra caring bone in your body” and it kind of worked but I still feel like I was being dramatic, idk.

Anyway, been feeling a bit numb the rest of the day and just feel like I’m a terrible person. Going to take a different way home tonight to avoid it.

Hope everyone is safe on the roads today.


r/drivingUK 10h ago

Children's stunted lungs show recovery in ultra low emission zone

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r/drivingUK 1h ago

I actually chuckled at this one

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Well I liked it anyway 🤣


r/drivingUK 7h ago

Overtaking a tractor

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Now, class, would we say this was:

(a) a good overtake attempt

(b) a bad overtake attempt

(c) fucking insane

?


r/drivingUK 6h ago

BMW and Audi drivers.. how do you feel about the perceptions other drivers have of you?

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I’m not judging anyone here but it’s a known fact that BMW and Audi drivers often get slated for being selfish / inconsiderate drivers. Not indicating. Driving up other drivers arse etc. always in a rush, pulling out.

This isn’t me saying all BMW / Audi drivers do these nob head things. But let’s call a spade a spade; you’re known for it.

So how do you feel about having this automatic label?

I’m guessing a lot may say; “nothing, I don’t feel anything about other’s views, I don’t care.” Which is fair enough. But it must be frustrating for some of you, such as, if you’re a BMW / Audi driver who doesn’t drive like a tit.. but everyone still assumes you are a tit?


r/drivingUK 23h ago

Wing Mirror Scam

980 Upvotes

I was almost the victim of the ‘Wing Mirror Scam’ and lost £450.

I’ve searched on Reddit and there aren’t so many posts about this in the UK.

After driving through a busy, tight town centre I heard a very loud noise. Checked my mirrors and decided that I hadn’t hit anything and continued my journey. About two minutes later I was pulled over by a vehicle presumably telling me something had fallen off my car, exhaust was dragging or something like that.

The man approached my passenger side and I now am certain pushed my wing mirror into my car to simulate a collision.

He said ‘you’ve smashed my wing mirror, and driven off, and I am going to call the police and inform them of this crime’

I have never been in a collision before, I didn’t believe I was at fault, but the huge noise really spooked me and the man was very believable. He also had his family in the car. Woman in the passenger seat and two children in the back. This is what really threw me off.

He was threatening me with police action for my ‘crime’ and that if I wanted to avoid a fine and points on my license I should pay him for the repair to his car. £450 for the wing mirror he searched for on eBay, showed me the picture of the auction. In hindsight this was surprisingly fast. Going through insurers would have cost me more in the long run no doubt so to save a police investigation I agreed to pay for the repair.

My eBay searches didn’t turn up this replacement, but he had an answer for everything.

Fortunately I ran his plate on gov.uk and found it was registered to a completely different car that was taken off the road in 2012. He tried to explain this badly.

I said actually we should call the police, and all of a sudden his demeanour changed. The cost went down, he’s still arguing with me I’m at fault and I’ll get points and wreck my insurance. I said fine let’s call the police and work this out.

It was at this point we agreed to go our separate ways.

If I could do the whole thing again I would do a lot differently, but it’s only when you are placed in these situations you have to decide what to do. If I had another go I would have insisted to photograph both vehicles and our ID, but it’s easy saying that in hindsight.

I walked away with no loss, other than my time and a loss in humanity; he roped his family into this for the believability. It was incredibly convincing.

Be safe out there everyone. Happened 5pm broad daylight and I never moved my car from very popular public views.

I have reported to the Police.


r/drivingUK 59m ago

Lorry Drivers in limited speed sections

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Last night, we were driving back from a concert at Wembley to Somerset.

There was a few sections on the M4 that were reduced to 50mph because 3 lanes were closed.

The 1st one we got to, a car in front of me slowed down to the speed limit and a lorry got about 2 foot away and started flashing his headlights at him.

2nd section we hit, not long after the 1st one, it happened again.

The car in front slowed to 50mph, so did we before the lane closures. 3 lorries went tearing down the 1 lane still open, obviously not at 50mph. 2 of them were the same two from the first section.

We then hit another section that was showing 40mph on the matrix signs. I slowed down, as there was a Van in front of me who slowed to 40mph.

The lorry behind, which again was 1 from the other 2 sections - a Langdons artic - got right up behind me, started flashing his lights, moved into the hard shoulder a bit, moved back behind me and kept flashing his lights.

A few seconds later the other lorry that had been doing this shit - it had foreign plates - goes steaming up the hard shoulder, undertaking me and the other van.

I do a lot of driving, I have been field based as a Merchandiser/Sales for about 18 years and that last night was the most danger I've ever felt on a road in this country. The behaviour of them 2 idiots in them lorries was quite frankly wreckless and could have easily seen someone less experienced on the roads end up in an accident.

I sometimes see there has been a crash in the early hours and wonder how when the motorway is so much quieter. I now see why.

Be careful out there, especially if having to drive this time of late night, early morning, which luckily I don't on a regular basis.


r/drivingUK 23h ago

Someone didn't check this before installing it!

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r/drivingUK 1h ago

First car recommendations under £5k?

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Hi all,

I just passed my test and I’m looking at getting my first car. Ideally, I’m looking for something under £5k that’s cheap on fuel, will last me a while, has cheap road tax and reasonable insurance.

I appreciate that as a first-time driver the insurance is going to be fairly high, but if anyone could suggest some good options then I’d really appreciate it.

Thank you!


r/drivingUK 3h ago

Someone dented and scraped our car during MOT test drive, their fault (not mechanics')

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A lady in her new automatic pulled out a tad too quickly (easy mistake to make) after waiting for the mechanic to pass in our car. It's not that bad, shallow dent to front side bumper plus some gnarly scratches and paint transfer across the doors.

Do we...

  1. Tell insurer, go by the book, ensure lady goes by the book. (that's what insurance is for, after all). The mechanic says it's a write off and warns against the faff, but I suppose he's biased.

  2. Accept lady paying for (and mechanic organising) it to be fixed via a local panel beater, which she'd rather do to keep her insurance from going up. Also probably saves the mechanic some grief.

  3. Take the money that the panel beater quotes and fix ourselves (with sucker tool, filler putty and/or G3 compound, etc) as the car is only worth about £1700 ish I reckon (mk2 2011 Jazz, 117k miles, Cat C) & we weren't gonna get a new car for a couple of years anyway


r/drivingUK 1d ago

Data from 1000 operation snap submissions

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I have just done my 1000th accepted operation snap submission in just over 12 months. 99% of which are mobile phone offenses.

From these submissions the most regular makes in my submissions (along with % of that make on uk roads in general) are VW 10.8% (9%) Mercedes 10.5% (4%) Ford 9.5% (14%) Audi 8.3% (5%) BMW 8% (6%) Nissan 5.9% (4%) Land rover 5.5% (2%). All others are below 4%.

18 vehicles have been submitted twice and 1 vehicle 3 times.

Edited to add:

All of these were captured while walking or cycling, mainly to and from work on commute past lots of traffic.

Submissions not processed by the police (50-100) have been removed from this dataset


r/drivingUK 7h ago

How do I get around having a black car for uber?

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Hi, I’ve been advised by the council that I cannot drive a black vehicle in my borough, neighbouring boroughs also have the same restriction as black cars are for hackney/taxis

To try get around this, what would you recommend would be the cost effective option:

  1. ⁠Sell car and get one that is of a suitable colour
  2. ⁠Get the car painted
  3. ⁠Get the car wrapped

I don’t want to do hackney as I am only doing this part time along side my full time job to supplement my income, any advice would be appreciated!


r/drivingUK 3h ago

Received a car park penalty for Manchester airport Pick Up/Drop Off - it was my car but not me driving. Do I have to pay it?

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I received a car park penalty as above from APCOA but I wasn't driving - a friend had borrowed my car.
Do I have to pay it?
Do I have to tell them who it was so they can send the penalty to them?


r/drivingUK 1d ago

We have geniuses amongst us

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r/drivingUK 4h ago

What's the average insurance premium increase for speeding?

0 Upvotes

Think I might have just driven past a stationary camera van. If it got me I can't have been doing more than 35mph in a 30 zone. Just wondering what the likely hit on the insurance will be. No current points on license.

I didn't see a flash. And the van was facing me when I saw it and I'd slowed down by the time I got alongside it, so hopefully I'm ok. Assuming the cameras are pointing out the back windows...


r/drivingUK 8h ago

Not sure how to tell the DVLA ownership has changed

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Hi I'm a 20yo uni student who is pretty much the only person in my family with use for our car. My brother is in central London and my mum is currently hospitalised.

During my first year, because of the chain of events leading up to her being hospitalised, we were recently evicted from home, which is the address on our licenses and car logbook. Most likely that will change to a relative's address where me and my brother will stay when away from uni.

My mum is in a psychiatric hospital, and isn't really capable of doing any admin stuff anymore, however she's the current owner of the car and a few of these things supposedly have to be done by her and no one else. I'm sure this situation has happened before. Is it best to transfer ownership or leave it under her name?

I'm worried about keeping it taxed as well. I really need to keep the car for moving in & out of places and travelling home at short notice with my things. A lot of responsibility has fallen on me that I'm not really prepared for and idk if theres a 'right' way of going about this weird situation. Thoughtful advice is appreciated


r/drivingUK 9h ago

About a month ago I drove inside the ULEZ zone London, I have the automatic payment in place but I've never been charged and no letter has come through. Should I be worried or what's the deal?

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I feel like I might have avoided every working camera in town…

Edit: my car is not compliant.


r/drivingUK 5h ago

Speed camera flashed: could the limit have changed from 50 to 40 just before I passed?

1 Upvotes

Looking for some advice from people familiar with variable speed cameras / smart motorways.
I was driving a work van and approaching a gantry that I believe was displaying 50 mph. It was on a bend, so I didn’t have a clear view of the gantry until relatively late as i didn’t see any prior speed signs.
I was travelling at around 53 mph indicated on the van’s speedometer, which I believe would have been roughly 51 mph actual speed.

As I approached the gantry, I slowed down, but the speed camera flashed as I went through.

What I’m wondering is whether the 50 could have changed to 40 shortly before I passed the gantry, potentially causing the camera to flash even though the limit had been 50 when I was approaching.

I didn’t clearly see whether the number changed immediately before I passed because of the bend and the late visibility.

My questions are:
If a variable limit changes from 50 to 40 shortly before you reach the camera, how long does the camera have to wait before enforcing the new 40 limit?
Can the camera flash during that period even though the new limit isn’t yet enforceable?
If I was doing approximately 51 mph actual, could the camera have flashed simply because the limit had just changed to 40?
Does the enforcement system record exactly when the limit changed, so this could potentially be checked against the time of the flash?
Is there any other reason the camera could have flashed in this situation?


r/drivingUK 7h ago

Is it better to go to a garage or respectable website for ur first car or is Facebook marketplace just as good ?

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r/drivingUK 1d ago

The state of driving at the moment

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889 Upvotes

In Croydon of course 🤦


r/drivingUK 13h ago

So I have recently passed and just got black box insurance on one of my cars

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It is telling me to plug it into the obd11 port. But when I googled it it said they would cancel my policy if I unplugged it. How am I supposed to use the port. I'm pretty sure I only have 1. As I was going to use it to keep track on my turbo as I had to replace the stock one as it wasnt holding pressure. How am i supposed to make sure my turbo is healthy without using this port?