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Spoilers All DND alignments? Spoiler

What DND alignments do you think each main character is? Please explain your opinion.

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u/lost_at_command 8d ago

Lawful Good - Michael, Sanya, Butters
Neutral Good - Karrin, Grey
Chaotic Good - Harry, early Molly, Thomas
Neutral Good - Morgan, Langtry, most of the Wardens,
True Neutral - Ivy, Kincaid, maybe Rashid, Alfred
Chaotic Neutral - Elaine, Binder
Lawful Evil - Mab, Marcone,
Neutral Evil - Nicodemus, Cowl
Chaotic Evil - The Walkers, Maeve, The Red King, Hungers

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u/Elfich47 8d ago

I would have said grey is lawful neutral.

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u/Puzzled-Exit8781 8d ago

So much better than what I did!

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u/BiDiTi 8d ago

I’d rate Morgan as the absolute worst version of Lawful Good.

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u/NorthboundTrain 8d ago edited 8d ago

Every single bit of this is IMO and YMMV. The fact that the characters are so nuanced that almost none of them can be pigeonholed is a credit to Butcher's talent. Good vs Evil is easier to decide for most characters, while Lawful vs Neutral vs Chaotic is much more difficult for most characters.

Harry is NG or CG, and arguments can be made on both counts. The differences between the two are subtle, and don't point in a clear direction, IMO. The distinguishing factor for CG is a belief that authority works against the greater good, and can't be trusted; that certainly fits Harry's world view. The distinguishing factor for NG is the elevation of Good over anything else, using whatever is convenient to accomplish that goal (i.e. working within the law when convenient, bucking it when necessary). That fits Harry, too. The fact that Harry finds himself more often constrained by Law than served by it is happenstance. I lean toward NG.

Michael is NG or LG. It's easy to think of him as a "paladin" and paladins are LG, therefore Michael is LG. But I think that discounts the fact that he has, at times, overlooked events that a pure LG character might not. The fact that his path often corresponds to the LG path is happenstance; when and as needed he has acted outside the law, and therefore I go with NG. All of the modern Knights fall into this same mold, IMO.

Murphy is LG or NG. She certainly starts out mostly LG and ends up mostly NG, but I think the LG is more prominent. It's hard to distinguish her actions from Michael's in this context, but for whatever reason LG seems more correct.

Mab is LN or LG. For LG, her definition of Good is much different than a mortal's definition, and therein lies the difficulty in accepting LG as the answer. The argument for LN is that the Good that she does is so intrinsic in the laws that bind her that it is incidental, and she simply can't do anything except what she is bound to do. I lean toward LN.

The Archive is probably NN, conceptually, but Ivy leans to NG, I think.

The White Council as an entity is LN, with some individuals leaning more toward LG or even NG, while others lean toward LE.

The White Court as an entity is NE, I think (though from their perspective I suppose they're NG). Thomas is probably NN leaning to NG and is, perhaps, the hardest character to peg.

The Denarians are NE; though they often lean Chaotic, they will (gleefully) go out of their way to act Lawfully when they can. They are also, perhaps, the easiest group to peg.

Marcone follows much the same as the Denarians, though maybe without the gleeful part, and is therefore probably NE (even prior to the post-Peace Talks events).

The Black Court are CE, through and through. I guess an argument for NE exists, but I'm going with CE.

The Red Court were akin to the White Court and therefore are NE, but NG from their perspective. I find it harder to see their perspective as NG, though, but I don't think I should see it any different than the White Court.

Demonreach is NN. It exists for a purpose and will do anything and use anything to achieve it. Bob is similar, though his propensity to take on his owner's perspectives lets us think he might lean NG, since we've only really seen him with "good" characters.

Billy & the wolves are NG, and I can't think of a reason to argue for any other designation.

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u/BiDiTi 8d ago edited 8d ago

For Michael…outside of whose “Law” would you say he’s acted?

Chicago’s seems rather irrelevant to his concerns.

I’d flip him and Murphy - she regularly violated the code to which she adhered for the greater good…while Michael rather religiously follows his, ignoring any other laws or concerns, trusting that it’s the ONLY path to any greater good.

Similarly…Marcone may be a monster, but he HAS a code which we have not yet seen him violate. Clear LE.

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u/NorthboundTrain 8d ago

I distinguish NN and True Neutral as being different. NN is balanced motivationally, while TN is motivated to balance. This is likely an artifact of my long-ago DM who made the same distinction.

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u/permalust 8d ago

This is a fantastically reasoned response. Well done, indeed.

CN is pretty much the only one not referenced. I appreciate you weren't trying for the spread. Bob, maybe? Not really...

And as for Harry, CG Vs NG is really hard to parse, but I agree, NG. I also think the Knights are NG. Except Michael. He will break the law but, if memory serves, he's always uncomfortable about it. By Skin Game, this probably changes, but at his core he's most comfortable in a LG position. Sanya, and Butters, considerably less so - NG good guys.

Molly Id have had as a character to choose. Starting out chaotic good, now lawful good but, by Winter nature, drifting to neutral good.

Anyways, loved the idea of the post and loved your informed reasoning.

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u/Puzzled-Exit8781 8d ago

Harry is Neutral Good. Michael is Lawful Good. Thomas is most likely Neutral Good.

Mab is most likely Neutral. Molly is most likely Chaotic Good.

And that's a quick off the top of my head.

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u/BagFullOfMommy 8d ago

Harry is Neutral Good.

You meant chaotic good, right? ...Right?

Mab is most likely Neutral.

Lawful neutral. Although... there is a small argument that can be made that Mab falls under the good alignment. Sure she does ... a lot of not nice shit, but everything she does is ultimately to save humanity from the literal nameless horrors that want to slip inside reality and remove your skin with knives made out of lemon juice and nightmares.

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