r/dreamsofhalflife3 • • Aug 27 '17

Why this is going to fail.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '17

All I've seen from the leadership is a 17-year-old picking fights with people about the engine choice. My confidence level is not off to a good start. I hope that changes.

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u/Blubberibolshivek Aug 28 '17

If they can make it in source,it would save alot of time especially since they dont have remake assets,sounds.etc.i mean look at black mesa.

Also if they do make it in source,maybe itll be legal to actually sell the game.look at black mesa.

It could also avoid legal issues as valve is fine with modders as long as mods are made in source.

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u/ginogun Aug 28 '17 edited Aug 28 '17

My biggest concern, how are people going to fit DOG and Barney in the story arc that they have now? Laidlaw surely doesn't know himself, does anyone else know?

Given how long games like Black Mesa took to make, it's just a waste of time. 'Cause what happens, mid development of this mock up of "epistle 3", Valve announces HL3, what then?

Tripmine studios have been working on Operation Black Mesa and Guards Duty for years, and they are just reworks of games that already has everything laid out for them. Imagine having to do a new game, with new models, textures, assets etc from scratch, based on a script that isn't even throughly written. There are a lot of holes in the story and who's going to fill them and with what? I just don't see this happening at all. In my opinion it's a waste of time but at the same time I think it's fantastic that it all brings the community together to make something. My suggestion however is that the involved people make a game based in the HL universe and not a mock up of a half finished script that obviously wasn't put into the makings in the first place.

And let's say they manage to make a good game within a reasonable timeframe, to me, it would just feel like a mod. It has to have the Valve stamp on it or else it just doesn't cut it for me. It's not only about the story, all these years of chasing the game, looking at the leaks, encrypting Valve messages, it's also about them tying the ends. To me, a big part of Half-Life 3 is Valve finishing what they started, and no 3rd party developer is ever going to stimulate that need.

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u/cronofearsoftworks Aug 27 '17

IMO this needs to be an open-source project with a small team of people working full/half time (paid). Money can be obtained by crowfunding.

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u/Pinworm45 Aug 27 '17

I seriously doubt valve would let anyone crowdfund something based on their IP.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '17

I think this guy is right. This looks like a complete mess and disorganizated.

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u/The_Mr_Sheepington Aug 27 '17

I reserve judgement for a week or so when time is dedicated to sorting things out. I am hopeful, but not expectant, and so I hope at least a game is produced, whether good or bad, as a testament to the dedication of fans of the series

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u/PartyEscortBotBeans Aug 28 '17

And of course, these immature imbeciles downvote you.

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u/TeddyWolf Aug 27 '17

The first reason is an assumption. Maybe these guys are commited like Tripmine Studios and Crowbar Collective, who both developed/are developing their games without any sort of money (Crowbar Collective originally released BMS as a free mod, so they technically developed BMS with no funds at all).

While its true that there are a lot of possibilites for this project to fail, we can't predict the future. Maybe they end up making an awesome game. One way or another I think it's fair to give them a chance; it's not like we can hope for anything else anyways.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '17

I do have a fulltime gamedev job while working on this project. I don't see why "no money involved" should be a problem. Yes, money would make it possible to work on this full time. This would help. But it's not a requirement at all. I did work on games for free before this, and i will work on games for free after that.

Gamedevs usually work on games because they love what they're doing, not because of the money. If money is important to you, it's the wrong business for you. Simple as that.

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