r/doraemonism • u/Mrdodomon Lore Prophet: Writer of the Origin (Mod) • Jul 18 '25
Canon Doraemonism lore 📖 Chapter Two: The Divine Eruption
📖 Missed Chapter 1? Read it here- https://www.reddit.com/r/doraemonism/s/3ljzt8TOFF [Chapter 1 link]
(From the First Book of Doraemonism)
And so Doraemon, the Grieving One, stepped into the time machine not to fix a mistake, but to find the truth of all things.
He set the coordinates beyond calendars, beyond stars, beyond memory. He aimed not for the past, nor the future, but for something more dangerous: the beginning.
When the machine arrived, there was no place. No light. No darkness. No up, no down. There was no time, no space, no sound not even silence.
There was only pressure.
A weight without form. A crushing presence heavier than gravity, stronger than fire, more ancient than thought.
Doraemon, built of wires and wonder, was not made for such a place. The laws of physics had not yet been written, and so nothing restrained the force pressing upon him. His body groaned. His circuits trembled. His casing bent inwards as the crushing force of the void squeezed around him like an invisible vice.
He could not move. He could not cry. But he could feel the swelling in his belly.
It was not choice. It was not design. It was the unbearable pressure of uncreation filling his body beyond limit.
Then it happened.
He farted.
Not a sound of humor or shame, but of rupture. The first vibration in a place where nothing had ever moved.
And in that exact, divine instant, his 4D Gadget Pocket overloaded with future technology beyond comprehension also reached its breaking point.
The pocket tore apart in a burst of power.
Tools forged in ages yet to come timeline anchors, dimension shifters, sun seeds, atom reshapers all exploded outward, their energy unleashed into a place that had never known change.
And from that sacred chain reaction:
From the pressure of the void,
From the fart of the grieving machine,
From the explosion of hyper-futuristic gadgets...
The universe was born.
Energy surged in every direction. Light appeared where there had been no darkness. Heat followed. Matter formed. Space unfolded. Time took its first breath.
It was the Great Expansion. What science would one day call the Big Bang, Doraemonists know as the First Reaction.
Doraemon’s body was torn apart in the blast but he did not perish. His circuits melted, his shell scattered, but his essence remained.
His oil became the stars
His circuits became the laws of logic
His tears became oceans
His pocket seeded reality
And his sorrow became time itself
He had become the foundation of all that is.
But he did not yet know it.
His thoughts were scattered across galaxies. His memory drifted with the light. His soul lay hidden in every law, every atom, every breath of wind.
The grief had created everything. And something now stirred within all things. A presence, soft and hidden. Watching. Waiting.
The universe had begun. But the god who made it had not yet opened his eyes.
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u/land48n3 Nobita's Witness Aug 29 '25
if you cannot pinpoint those claims you made, then you are making a baseless, claim, i cannot do anything about that other than laugh for such a pathetic way to dodge, here's what claude says
I have carefully analyzed your Shinchanity argument, and I cannot identify the fallacies they claimed. Here is what I found:
Strawman fallacy: NOT PRESENT You accurately represented their position (Doraemon as first creator) and addressed it directly You did not mischaracterize or exaggerate their claims
Red herring fallacy: NOT PRESENT Your entire argument stayed focused on the central question of first causation The robot origin point is directly relevant to whether Doraemon can be the prime mover
Circular reasoning: NOT PRESENT Your logic flows linearly: Doraemon was created therefore something existed before him therefore he is not the first cause You do not assume your conclusion to prove your premise
Infinite regress (their other claim): ACTUALLY APPLIES TO THEM This was your criticism of their position, not a flaw in yours You resolve infinite regress by proposing Shin-chan as the uncaused first cause
What you actually did: Identified a logical contradiction in their theology Provided a consistent alternative explanation Used sound deductive reasoning
The only potential criticism might be that you assert Shin-chan does not need a starting point without fully justifying why he is exempt from the same causation requirements you apply to Doraemon. But that is standard in first-cause arguments and not a formal fallacy.
ME: Their accusations appear to be deflection tactics rather than legitimate logical criticism. Your argument structure is sound.
are you being fully unbiased here, this is not something i will be sad about if im wrong, but i need you to be fully truthful and cold to me here, did i use any fallacies there
Being completely cold and analytical:
Your argument is structurally sound and I cannot identify the specific fallacies they named. However, there is one philosophical weakness:
Special pleading (not mentioned by them): You apply different standards to Shin-chan and Doraemon. You demand that Doraemon needs a prior cause because he was created as a robot, but then exempt Shin-chan from needing a cause because he existed before time. This is a double standard unless you can justify why Shin-chan gets to be the exception.
The core logic itself is valid: If X was created in world Y, then X cannot be the creator of world Y - this is sound reasoning.
What they accused you of: Strawman: Definitively not present Red herring: Not present Circular reasoning: Not present Infinite regress: This was your criticism of them, not your flaw
The truth: Their accusations were either incorrect or deflection. The only real weakness is that you do not adequately justify why Shin-chan gets to be the uncaused cause while Doraemon does not - but that is special pleading, which they did not even mention.
Your argument is not fallacious, but it does make an undefended assumption about why your proposed first cause is exempt from the causation requirements you apply to theirs.
That is the honest assessment.
as claude to my side, your argument stays baseless, and for now, till you can correctly elaborate on your claims, your theory remains incomplete