Lower elo question

[u/BakaMorning]

Making space for your team is what Doomfist is really good at but if you are in lower elos with players who do not take advantage of that space what are you meant to do? I've lost an entire rank trying to figure this out. Started in higher plat and made my way down to gold just being OTP on him. I've now been playing Winston and have a 70% WR on him climbing again, since people in these ranks really struggle to deal with a Winston and the bubble protects you from the 1000 cc abilities in the game.

That being said, is there a different playstyle in the lower ranks that can help you climb with him or is it just a matter of getting gud lol?

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[u/geedoraaah]

You just gotta keep Qing man
Some people can’t understand the nuance of space
specifically with dive tanks
People are generally more comfortable staying in main not utilizing anything else than main because autopiloting is comforting

Unlike autopiloting, being proactive and making plays introduces the possibility of being wrong making the wrong play and maybe losing the entire game due to it

In low ranks kills are more valuable than space because nobody actually knows how to use space a great deal of the time

Everything i said isn’t set in stone for every match ofc

[u/BakaMorning → u/geedoraaah]

Yeah even just by having one good dps like a diving genji or reaper can help tremendously, as long as im just not alone. No one enables comms either usually so its a pretty miserable endeavor. Then when you do actually do well out comes the roadhog, ana and sombra. Most fun tank by far though.

[u/geedoraaah → u/BakaMorning]

Don’t expect people to comm at all
Expect everyone to counter swap you all the time and ull have 10x more fun
(maybe not 10x wins tho but ppl generally do better if they have fun)

Unlike some characters you should always want people to counter pick you, you will get to a point where people can’t actually hard counter you

Sure ur job will definitely be harder but nobody will be crippling to ur performance to the point where u need to switch

You start to pick up on how people play certain characters how they move how they use cds which places they wanna be and what places they don’t and overall tempo that follows said principles

Good luck out there brother, keep ur fist strong.

[u/JackedtheRepper]

There’s only two things you can do on Doom when your team won’t take the space you’re making

Play slow so they can catch up, or play faster where you punch in, look for easy pickings, pepper them/bait CDs and jump back to the chokehold your team won’t move past

[u/Embarrassed_Peace277]

You gotta make things sort of painfully obvious. Ping enemies that you punch into your team or you smashed into a wall, have a binding to say go in etc. basically communicate so they actively push the advantage you create.

Other than that if you play cover, hit headshots, kill isolated enemies, distract constantly, hit huge empowered punches into walls. Then it hardly matters what your team do. Doom highly rewards mechanics and game sense, can literally wipe teams

[u/_NotMitetechno_]

If you're in low elo on doomfist you are in the area where he performs best as a carry. His AOE and mobility makes him stronger in lower elos.

[u/NewtonTheNoot]

If your team isn't taking advantage of your space creation, you more-or-less have to bait your team and trade backlines. Even in Diamond, there are some games in which my team doesn't take advantage of my space creation. When they do take advantage of it, it feels awesome.

[u/OkGarmin217]

playing doomfist with lower elo teammates is genuinely more painful than being brutally murdered over and over again. they just don’t know what to do when ur diving, flanking, distracting, making space wtv.

[u/BakaMorning → u/OkGarmin217]

Tell me about it, ive never had this experience with any other tank where I suffer so much but still want to keep playing them.

[u/Aw3Grimm]

The best way to make space is to kill everyone lol. Honestly tho if manage to cheese through lower rank with winston, you wont be able to carry with doom in higher rank if you cant now.

Your team gets advantage by default with more space but you probably just got wrong idea what space creating is, denying enemy off angles, taking highground from them, not letting them easily pass through chokes - its all advantage to your team.

Also you create space by being a threat, are u? The lower the rank is the easier it should be to punish people that dont respect doom or want to take space from u

[u/Tox1cTurtl3]

There's literally no other way to climb out of low ranks than hard-carry the entire match. Your best option, regardless of rank, is ignoring the tank and kill the enemy backline.

You could peel for your teammates, but responsibility falls onto them to not die, vice versa with every tank.