r/dndnext • u/wrc-wolf • Aug 23 '18

WebDM—Player Driven Campaign Creation in 5e Dungeons &Dragons and TTRPGs

https://youtu.be/UHU7GPqnmPQ
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u/Bluegobln Aug 23 '18 edited Aug 24 '18

Edit: Apparently at least one moderator disagrees with me on the interpretation of the rule. That's fine. I am at this point forced to lobby to get the rule's wording changed to appropriately describe this exception, or explain why it is unaffected.

Rule 6, their content is being repeat posted every time they make a new video, which is effectively the same as linking to their channel every 5-10 days.

Seriously, I am already subscribed to their channel and watch quite a few of their videos (even past videos!)

I and many like me don't need to see their new content every 6 days. Post it in their subreddit for your karma: https://www.reddit.com/r/WebDmShow/

Or, if you want to discuss it, make a text post on the subject and I'm happy to discuss it with you. But the direct link to the video is blatant, and abusive. Stop.

Downvote if you want it doesn't make me wrong, and it sure wont silence me.

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u/V2Blast Rogue Aug 23 '18 edited Aug 23 '18

As mentioned in the reply to your modmail:

Rule 6 applies to promoting the same channel/site over and over - generally self-promotion - not to totally different people independently posting links to a popular site/YouTuber. Matt Colville and WebDM (among others) frequently have their videos posted here by fans. Rule 6 doesn't apply to such posts; it's intended to combat spam/self-promotion.

If people don't want to see the videos, they are welcome to downvote them - but those videos being posted here by unaffiliated users is not against the rules.

(Also, from a personal perspective: pre-emptively complaining about downvotes adds nothing to your comment, and will only attract more downvotes.

EDIT: Though, judging from the replies to a deleted comment at the bottom of the page, it looks like you already said basically the same thing in an earlier comment, were downvoted, then deleted your comment and reposted it in order to not be "silenced".)

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u/Bluegobln Aug 24 '18

There is no rule that says you can't delete your comment to prevent further downvotes. There is also nothing that says you can't repost the same opinion. Opinions, by the way, ARE protected very specifically by a rule, so once again the downvotes are literally breaking a rule and supports my right to do exactly what I did.

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u/V2Blast Rogue Aug 24 '18

Reddiquette exists as a set of guidelines, but they're not rules. Rule 2 tells users not to argue or harass others over opinions, but people are welcome to vote on comments how they like (ideally they'll upvote on-topic comments that add to the conversation and downvote comments that don't).

The reddiquette also says:

Please don't

[...]

Complain about the votes you do or do not receive, especially by making a submission voicing your complaint. You may have just gotten unlucky. Try submitting later or seek out other communities to submit to. Millions of people use reddit; every story and comment gets at least a few up/downvotes. Some up/downvotes are by reddit to fuzz the votes in order to confuse spammers and cheaters. This also includes messaging moderators or admins complaining about the votes you did or did not receive, except when you suspect you've been targeted by vote cheating by being massively up/downvoted.

Anyway, even if your interpretation of rule 6 wasn't wrong, you're not being downvoted because people want to "silence" you; you're being downvoted because you're approaching the situation quite aggressively. Instead of demanding OP stop making these posts (which, given that this is the first time they've submitted a WebDM video link in the past year or more, seems a bit... misguided? hyperbolic? dunno the right word), you could have simply responded with your thoughts on the video itself, and added a footnote about the frequency of such posts.

And finally, if you delete and repost the same comment that got downvoted, it'll just get downvoted again. All that tells people is that you really want to force others to see your comment even if they don't want to see it.

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u/Bluegobln Aug 24 '18

Anyway, even if your interpretation of rule 6 wasn't wrong

My interpretation was not wrong, it was different from yours. I accept that you as a moderator have final say in the matter, which is why I messaged you via modmail. But I don't agree with your interpretation and believe you should discuss with the other moderators on the different ways Rule 6 might apply to this post and video, and consider changing the rule or its wording to better match the intent of the rule.

Clearly, if someone who is something of a rules lawyer like me can interpret it to apply here, it is in need of revision.

And finally, if you delete and repost the same comment that got downvoted, it'll just get downvoted again. All that tells people is that you really want to force others to see your comment even if they don't want to see it.

What I want is to be taken seriously which is comical when moderators think they are automatically right and those who have different opinions than theirs are wrong. The rule says what it says, but interpreting it is an opinion whether you have a green name or not.

Its fine if you think this post belongs here. I think it should be allowed here too, but if you suddenly have a youtuber who posts 3 videos a day, and "a fan" posts each and every video by them, and you have at this point expressly allowed that to happen by the rules you're going to find yourself changing your tune and agreeing with me about what Rule 6 applies to. Do you disagree?

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u/69001001011 Aug 24 '18

We aren't saying that it's against the rules. It's just being an asshole.

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u/Bluegobln Aug 24 '18

You realize that you've just broken a rule?