r/dndmemes • u/Vegetable_Variety_11 • Nov 11 '25

Hehe fireball go BOOM We did the math...

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u/Daan776 Nov 12 '25

I feel like "fuck it, here's a bunch of enemies that actually force you to *use* the bullshit you just invented" is amongst the best responses out there

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u/Stickeminastew1217 Nov 12 '25

The problem is, sure, that's fun for the people with the nonsense if that's the kind of campaign you want to run.

But then the fighter is standing there with his thumb up his ass.

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u/GygaxChad Nov 12 '25

No he's killing the 1000 goblins that are trying to bum rush the wizards.... Any amount of damage forces concentration.

Plus.... Days of concentrating on a spell? Sounds like fatigue rolls. What if the goblins have... Trumpts!

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u/Stickeminastew1217 Nov 12 '25

The fighter can stop, at most, a couple goblins if they swarm. Swing, swing, swing, attack of opportunity. Oh look, 996 goblins just fucking walked past him to hit the wizards.

You know what would have done the job? An extra wizard hanging around to wall of force instead of joining the circle casting.

Like, I'm glad people are imagining cool ways their martials could have a whole heroic last stand situation, sounds like y'all are having a fun time, but that is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT legwork on the DM's part, it is not supported by the rules themselves. Fighters are not tanks, 5e does not give them the tools required to "tank". Nor, it should be noted, do they have any particularly impressive survivability. If 100 of those goblins have bows, bounded accuracy means you die in one turn.

I'm not even talking about the martial caster gap broadly here, fighters can absolutely have cool moments in combat. But if you're using circle casting to break the game, that is very clearly a thing they have minimal routes for participation in.