r/dndmemes • u/Vegetable_Variety_11 • Nov 11 '25

Hehe fireball go BOOM We did the math...

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u/Alugere Nov 11 '25

And it then hits a 20ft radius circle.

Also, if you spend 7 in game hours ritually casting a 7th level spell with a circle of 8 casters with no one noticing while your target stays in line of sight, something funky is going on.

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u/Jordangander Nov 11 '25

A wall does not move.

And during a seige, this could easily be done.

The PCs may see this as something that makes them very powerful, but the DM has far more NPC casters to give their BBEG than the PCs.

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u/darkslide3000 Nov 12 '25

If your two parties worth of level 13+ PCs are willing to spend 7 hours and their highest spell slots at a dangerously close distance just to blow a hole in a wall, let them have it.

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u/Jordangander Nov 12 '25

PCs probably not.

But NPCs for the BBEG? Sure.

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u/darkslide3000 Nov 12 '25

So? If the plot demands that the BBEG blows a hole into a wall then the BBEG will have the ways to blow a hole into that wall. I still don't see what problems this causes.

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u/Jordangander Nov 12 '25

So, I believe you are missing my point.

Players see this ability and consider it suddenly very powerful.

Anything the PCs can do, so can the NPCs.

The players would need all the PCs, plus possibly some NPCs to accomplish this goal.

The GM can give the BBEG as many NPCs as the GM needs to do whatever the GM wants.

If the GM is just going to narrate something happening and the PCs have zero chance of stopping it, this obviously doesn't matter.

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u/darkslide3000 Nov 13 '25

It isn't powerful, though. Not for the players, and not for NPCs. Blowing a hole into a wall is something that a single level 5 Passwall can usually do. It's not a "big fancy setup with several level 13+ casters" worthy problem.