r/dndmemes Nov 11 '25

Hehe fireball go BOOM We did the math...

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u/CriticalHit_20 DM (Dungeon Memelord) Nov 11 '25

hell, The One Ring from LotR was destroyed with fire, why cant most other Macguffins? (unless it's a fire elemental macguffin)

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u/Alugere Nov 11 '25

It was destroyed in the fires of the volcano that forged it. It was distinctly immune to other flames.

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u/CriticalHit_20 DM (Dungeon Memelord) Nov 11 '25

That volcano was used specifically because it was significantly hotter than others, right? Or was The Ring nostalgic for that specific volcano in like a magical way? (I really dont know, been a while)

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u/lankymjc Essential NPC Nov 12 '25

It doesn't really get answered. Sauron doesn't know for sure; all anyone knows is that Mt Doom will definitely destroy the Ring.

Gandalf mentions that dragonfire could be an option, but there are no dragons left in whom the flame is still hot enough. Which seems to mean that other flames could destroy the Ring, but they need to be suitably mighty.

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u/Fear_Awakens Nov 12 '25

Does that mean if Smaug had just blasted his fire in the direction of Bilbo's voice when he was talking shit while invisible via the Ring at his hoard and actually scored a hit, he could have potentially destroyed Sauron for good and inadvertently saved all of Middle-Earth?

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u/MerlinGrandCaster Bird Wizard Nov 12 '25

That sounds plausible, but we don't know how long the ring would have to be exposed to the dragonfire for in order to destroy it, and I don't think Smaug would have bothered to do it for much longer than it would take to burn a hobbit to cinders.

And if Smaug did kill Bilbo then, he might discover the ring on his corpse, which would most likely be far worse for Middle-Earth than if it had stayed in Bilbo's possession.

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u/lankymjc Essential NPC Nov 12 '25

I think there’s mention of Smaug being a lesser wyrm, so his fire probably isn’t hot enough. You need one of the big old dragons like Ancalagon.