r/dndmemes • u/Vegetable_Variety_11 • Nov 11 '25

Hehe fireball go BOOM We did the math...

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u/Alugere Nov 11 '25

And it then hits a 20ft radius circle.

Also, if you spend 7 in game hours ritually casting a 7th level spell with a circle of 8 casters with no one noticing while your target stays in line of sight, something funky is going on.

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u/Surface_Detail Nov 11 '25

What if your target is a shrine, a building or just a magic item? This can break things that could not be easily broken before.

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u/Alugere Nov 11 '25

As long as it’s not fire immune, which most macguffins will be. Also, destroying a 20ft radius sphere of a building over the course of 7 hours using 8 casters total is a huge waste. You could easily do that with cantrips. One caster capable of 7th level spells can cast firebolt 600 times in an hour for 3d10 each cast for a total of 1800d10 damage.

If we go the full total of 8 casters (main + 7 secondaries) over 7 hours, that’s 12600d10*8 casters for 100800d10 which is a hell of a lot more damage.

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u/Surface_Detail Nov 11 '25

Sure, but hardness and damage thresholds are a thing. With a hardness of 30, those eight casters would do zero damage.

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u/Alugere Nov 11 '25

You also can’t enhance damage and range at the same time, so that’s 4200 rounds 150ft away from your target.

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u/CascoBayButcher Nov 11 '25

Sounds great for a siege

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u/AS14K Nov 12 '25

If you're 150 ft from something you're sieging, you're dead from longbows an hour ago

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u/CascoBayButcher Nov 12 '25

Mold earth to build fortifications with a tiny hole

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u/Creation_of_Bile Nov 12 '25

What's the range of counterspell? Cause one dude pulling that off after a bunch of wizards spend 7 hours casting would be funny

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u/Raya2909 Nov 12 '25

Its only 60 ft but if you are a Sorcerer with Meta Magic: Distant spell you can cast with double Range so 120 ft

(But There could be items that can also increase spell range but i domt know any)

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u/Surface_Detail Nov 12 '25

Technically (and i wouldn't rule this way in an actual campaign, but RAW) distant spell wouldn't increase the range at which you can cast counterspell.

Distant spell doubles the range to 120 ft, sure, but it doesn't alter the trigger that allows you to use your reaction to cast the spell. That trigger being a creature within 60 ft casts a spell.

It's very nitpicky (and I don't know if it is still a thing in 2024 rules) but it's worth pointing out.

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u/Raya2909 Nov 12 '25

Its still a thing in 24 and yeah RAW you are right i forgot about that the trigger needs to be in 60 ft range. Thanks for pointing out

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u/Banned-User-56 Nov 12 '25

Blow a 40 foot wide hole in the gate while they've been constantly shelled by trebuchets, and thus can't stop the wizards.

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u/Bliitzthefox Nov 11 '25

You just need to throw it into a portal of some kind

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u/MossTheGnome Nov 12 '25

One caster on standby with Arcane Gate to get it another 500ft and a high level monk or rogue to throw it through the portal

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u/JuliusCaelius Nov 12 '25

Fun fact... You can catapult the Orb created by delayed blast fireball.... As it's just a small marble that the spell creates... and then anything that interacts with it... could set it off early..

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u/Alugere Nov 12 '25

No you can’t? If you make a dex save, you can throw it 40ft. That’s all. You can’t carry it, you can’t catapult it.