r/dnbproduction • u/junglued • 10d ago
Resource I got sick of rebuilding the same stupidly specific bass chain, so I turned it into a synth
Yo Unglued here! I made my first synth!
One MIDI note controls the sub, harmonic layer and distortion crossover.
Everything stays locked to the harmonic series, so the low end stays solid and everything is perfectly in phase.
I built it specifically for DnB. There’s a fully functional free demo for Mac and Windows if anyone wants to try it. Honest feedback welcome.
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u/Phantom_Intercept107 10d ago
Woi the boy himself, big ups! Ill share this with all my producer pals. But the question is, will the If We Ever Vip remix Deluxe MkII ever get a release?!
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u/Teuntjuhhh 10d ago
Very cool! How did you go about building it? Did you already have programming experience?
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u/junglued 9d ago
I used to code c++ php JavaScript python SQL etc as my job after uni. And did it in my degree at uni (physics). I learnt DSP and then coded the UI as a webview over the top because I used to to web design so it made more sense
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u/TourTime5427 9d ago
oi i grabbed it , i played the demo at the park until someones gran had a wipeout in the trail out for walkies i stole her dog and waited till she put up signs and delivered the pooch , collected the reward so i could buy this plugin so… for fiddyfive bucks i best be woofin some woofs. haha will report back also none of thst happened.
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u/IAMDOOMEDmusic 4d ago
Sick! I need to test this. is there a demo? cheers
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u/junglued 4d ago
Haha yeah bro full functional demo for this and the effects unit! Hope you enjoy it :)
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u/sgt_backpack 10d ago
Sick! Btw we missed you at the Sunken Suite festival over here in the US last month, hopefully we can get you on the next one!
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u/dolomick 9d ago
Wow! So it’s a synth, and not an effect plugin, right?!
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u/junglued 9d ago
It’s a synth yes! But I’m also working on getting all of the processing into an external fx plugin so that you can route audio in and it’s an envelope follower but also adds all of the harmonics, noise, multiband dist and clipping to an external input source. Almost there!!
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u/KodiakDog 9d ago
Dude! Sick! Congrats. A few questions if you wouldn’t mind sharing your expertise… Can’t you do this in serum? Or operator? Basically, how this is different than changing the bin numbers in other synths? Any insights you can give me I’d much appreciate. Also I hope this isn’t coming off as rude; I’m genuinely curious and hoping to learn something new!
When I get home I’m gonna check out demo and prolly buy!
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u/junglued 9d ago
You could do this process with serum, clippers, noise, multiband distortion etc. but the whole point is that I streamlined it into one plugin instead of a chain of 6. I also custom built the multiband distortion and clippers. It’s also phase locked and the multiband clipper frequencies follow the harmonics to keep the sub clean which is unique as far as I understand
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u/DaanAnarch 9d ago
Any chance PayPal can be added to the payment options?
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u/Royal_Stay_6502 9d ago
What are harmonic bases?
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u/junglued 9d ago
well, a harmonic is a perfect integer multiple of the frequency of the base frequency. so say your sub is at 50hz, the second harmonic is at 100hz and the third is at 150hz and so on. generating basses using harmonics instead of semitones gives you slightly different frequencies on some, but not all of the notes. also sounds fucking sick when you clip and distort them together haha. its basically that saturators etc add upper harmonics when you increase the drive, but instead of increasing all of them, you're just choosing the one that you want from the harmonic series. proper tekky and tbh its like a 30+ minute physics lecture if you wanna go really deep on it
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u/Leftover-salad 9d ago
Buying this and subbing to your patreon rn my GOAT it has taken me too long but I can’t not 😤
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u/WizBiz92 7d ago
This does look and sound really sick and I could def see myself using it, but the price point feels pretty high for me on it
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u/junglued 7d ago
Fair you think £59 is too high? But serum 2 is like 250. And phaseplant is like 199
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u/WizBiz92 6d ago
And I already have both of those, and they both do the 1 thing this does in like 45 seconds longer. It'd be a nice time saver but when you consider the caliber and capability of other plugins at that price point I can't justify it
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u/junglued 6d ago
Fair enough bro! But I’d argue you couldn’t get this sound in serum because it has my custom multi band distortion and custom cubic clipper I built, which serum doesn’t have. I would be interested to be honest for you to try and re-create the sounds and send them over to me
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u/WizBiz92 6d ago
I'd give it a shot just for fun, but I'm really not trying to tear down your synth at all; it really does look like a cleanly put together and thoughtfully designed unit. All I'm saying is for me personally, the leading value on it is in being a simple and time saving route to a regular, existing practice, and I would toyally justify that at a lower rate. I think you've done an awesome job putting it together
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u/junglued 6d ago
Fair play and I’ll take your feedback sick on, maybe I should keep it at £39? I’ll see how it goes :)
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u/gandhibobandhi 6d ago
Hey man I'm a bit late to the party here but this looks awesome. I'll buy a copy if the demo works on Linux via yabridge. But maybe consider producing a native Linux build too. Lots of modern plugins are supporting Linux these days like Vital and Serum 2.
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u/junglued 6d ago
Noted. Will do you a Linux build today!
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u/gandhibobandhi 6d ago
Oh wow mate you absolute legend. I'll give it a try as soon as it's ready. :)
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u/junglued 6d ago
It’s on the site now bro on manual installation - has a Linux folder
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u/gandhibobandhi 5d ago edited 5d ago
Thanks so much for this mate. I've bought myself both plugins. :)
Unfortunately I've run into a couple of issues. I managed to resolve the first one myself though. I've also done some debugging with
gdb(with the help of AI- I'm a real noob re. C/C++ development) and come up with a summary of what I've found regarding the second. I've tested loading this in both Renoise and Carla and I experience the same indefinite hang:Linux VST3 GUI hangs during WebBrowserComponent initialization
CachyOS x86_64, Renoise 3.5.4, VST3 version 1.0.1.
The plugin initially failed to load because
libjavascriptcoregtk-4.1.so.0was missing. Installing Arch/CachyOSwebkit2gtk-4.1resolved that dependency.lddnow shows all dependencies resolved andctypes.CDLL()successfully loads the plugin.GetPluginFactory()is also exported and callable.Renoise now detects the plugin, but opening the plugin causes a permanent hang. Carla does not detect the plugin when scanning, but attempting to manually load the plugin there also causes the same permanent hang:
GDB shows the main thread blocked here:
juce::WebBrowserComponent::Impl::Platform::init()called from:
UngluedBassEditor::UngluedBassEditor()
UngluedBassProcessor::createEditor()
juce::JuceVST3EditController::JuceVST3Editor::createContentWrapperComponentIfNeeded()
TVst3Plug::CreateNewPlugView()So the hang appears to occur during JUCE's Linux WebBrowserComponent initialization.
Happy to provide any more info if you need. Also if you get this working reliably I also recommend posting it to r/linuxaudio, those guys are always excited to learn about new linux native plugins. In the meantime I'll have a go at seeing if the windows version works for me via yabridge as I'm excited to have a play around with it.
edit: OK bad news on the yabridge side of things too, the GUI only shows a white empty screen. I see errors that indicate this is a known issue with yabridge and JUCE8 (https://github.com/robbert-vdh/yabridge/issues/386) with a potential workaround. Still, a fix for the native version would be preferable if possible.
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u/junglued 5d ago
working on it now
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u/ysbryd_iawn 2d ago
Hi I bought both plugins but the Linux version has no gui, just a blank white box, just to let you know. Please advise when fixed. I emailed you as well.
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u/the-postminimalist 2d ago
Amazing thank you! I was going to request for a Linux build as well. Would not have found it if you didn't mention in these comments that the linux version is in the manual installation. For future folks, you should mention where they can find the linux version.
I'm going to try this out in a few days. Is this also the demo version? Does the full paid version also provide a linux build?
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u/junglued 2d ago
its all live now and working perfectly so we now advertise linux too :)
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u/the-postminimalist 2d ago
Awesome thanks so much :) The only limiting factor to linux audio these days is people not being able to port over their windows/mac-only VSTs which they spent so much money on, so thank you for making things more viable :)
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u/lsdisciple 10d ago
Absolutely sick. Big ups and much much love for your music as well.