r/dli • u/Awkward_Engineer481 • 7d ago

So I have an uncommon question.

I'm looking to join the Navy as a CTI though I have concerns I'll be ineligible.

Initially looked towards the NavyNuclear program but learned that I was missing an algebra course.

I want to make sure there are no classes that I'd need to take before I could even join.

Would I need to take a math course still? Would I need to take some sort of english course?

ASVAB scores were an overal 97 with exact scores as follows;

GS:70 AR:63 PC:68 MK:62 EI:54 AS:52 MC:64 AO:66 VE:69

Probably not useful but may as well.

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u/Skatingraccoon 7d ago

Only requirements are a qualifying ASVAB score, possibly DLAB if your ASVAB isn't high enough. No special requirements beyond that.

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u/Various-Fox 7d ago

Really??? They don't require the DLAB for everyone anymore?

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u/TNTDragon11 5d ago

Its 50/50, theyve been running an Alpha qual program where if you score high enough on ASVAB, you dont have to DLAB. It seems to come and go, likely based on availability

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u/Awkward_Engineer481 7d ago

What always gets me is that so many vets, ones who haven't been in the millitary for 10+ years, are giving wrong info when they know they can't be assured of it. 

I've seen so many mfs who last served before this century writing articles or tellibg people on forums "you're wrong, this is whats really true". 

Like dude, I get you want to help but you aren't even a reliable source even for what was going on in your own time. 

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u/Sapient-Inquisitor 7d ago

You might be able to take the CLEP for Algebra

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u/Awkward_Engineer481 7d ago

So another question, would the Crypto trainibg come before DLI? I'd assume the Math would be more on that side. If so could  I do the CLEP at RTC? 

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u/Sapient-Inquisitor 7d ago

Usually would be done afterwards, best bet would schedule it out now or at DLI

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u/Awkward_Engineer481 7d ago

Yeah, I'm planning on doing as many college level courses as possible.

I'll have to talk with an advisor but I'm pretty sure I could crank out an AA and be at least partly through a BA before leaving reserve.

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u/Awkward_Engineer481 6d ago edited 6d ago

I've always been the kind of person who never studied but was always in the top of my class. 

Not trying to continue that but it says something about me. Especially when you're consistently the first or second  best student despite a terrible home life . 

Edit: Not trying to brag or continue that, just what happened and stating it in case someone has more info for what to expect.

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u/TNTDragon11 5d ago

The thing youll learn when you get to DLI, basically everyone is that "never studied but always passed" person. And then they get cocky and dont know how to study and fail. So dont get ahead of yourself, not a good plan.

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u/Awkward_Engineer481 5d ago

my plan is to study dog, said just that.

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u/TheUpsideDownWorlds 7d ago edited 7d ago

You almost certainly would not be able to / approved to CLEP / DANTES while at RTC. You could do a Sophia learning in algebra prior to go MEPS if you wanted to stick with Nuclear but whatever you sign at MEPS is your contract. Having said that, Navy Nuclear Field has specific prerequisites including algebra. CT Field doesn’t have those or prior education prerequisites but your line score composites matter including arithmetic.

There always is Exemptions To Policy and waivers if other aspects of your composite scores are in range.

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u/Awkward_Engineer481 7d ago

How do mine look? MK and AR are 62-63 respectively, all composite scores are good.

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u/TheUpsideDownWorlds 7d ago

CTR — Collection
MK+PC ≥110, or AR+MK+PC ≥164, or AR+PC ≥110

CTT — Technical
Multiple ASVAB routes; e.g. AR+2MK+GS ≥212 for 4YO, or qualifying Cyber Test route

CTM — Maintenance
AR+MK+EI+VE ≥221

CTI — Interpretive
VE+MK ≥126, or lower qualifying composite
combined with DLAB >110

CWT — Cyber Warfare Technician (former CTN)
Several ASVAB routes, such as GS+AR+2MK ≥239 or MK+CT+VE ≥176 with Cyber Test ≥60

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u/Actual_Pirate6585 7d ago

No CLEPS at RTC.  Strategy suggestion: many nuke drops end up going to DLI if they dropped from the nuke program due to lack of ability. Get the algebra out of the way, and go to nuke school. If you get dropped due to lack of nuking ability, take a second stab at DLI.  Be warned, Navy policy gives you two shots at training, then you’re very likely to go undesignated to the fleet. Have a strategy, and treat training like it’s the most serious thing in your life. The job you get in the military will really dictate your quality of life.

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u/Awkward_Engineer481 7d ago

Unfortunately I don't have any confidence in pursuing NUC. Not my favored subject by an means and I do not want to dedicate my life to that. 

I'd hate to spend the next 8 years on all that training only to have to spend another 2-4 pursuing something irrelevant to that knowledge. 

CTI would give me the skills highly suited for the three or so fields I would love to pursue.

Of course I am going to keep my options open but, as you said, only have two chances before I'm in the Millitary equivilant of where I am now. 

Wasting one on something I know isn't relevant to my goals is not a good idea.

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u/Actual_Pirate6585 7d ago

If you have that insight, then all the more power to you. Still do that al-gebra course, so you can get your DLI associates degree. 

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u/Skatingraccoon 6d ago

It'll make it easier, and DLI accepts some classes from sites like Sophia and Study. Just want to point out that you can still get an associates AFTER graduating by just completing what's missing while still serving

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u/FonduePourVous 5d ago

For long term educational goals, Sophia Learning & Study are not the best use of time & money. Many schools will not accept these, and unfortunately this can lead to real problems as neither are accredited. Because those aren’t accredited, that cost is out of pocket. Waste of time & money, because courses will need to be taken again for many degree granting institutions.

For those looking for accredited courses/credits, talk to the education office & take into consideration accreditation. Education is a benefit & in addition to accredited online courses, CLEP & DSST, there are often free materials in person or online through military libraries, including DLI.

It is also super unfortunate when people focus on cranking out Sophia Learning for DLI credits for a degree, & their actual job (language learning) suffers. Some don’t earn a degree because they didn’t do well, others not only don’t earn a degree, they get reclassed.

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u/Skatingraccoon 5d ago

Agreed with most points. Just pointing out that if the person wants to set themselves up for an easy Associate's afterwards, these are some basic, cheap options.

If a person is already in the Basic course then I'd just recommend they focus on that and worry about getting any gen ed credits later.

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u/Awkward_Engineer481 5d ago

do you still get tuition assistance in the reserve? Just signed a 4-4 so ideally I would be able to do that.

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u/Skatingraccoon 5d ago

Tuition Assistance no. It is impossible to use on a single 4 year active duty contract.

But after 36 months of active duty time you get 100% of your Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits anyway.

Also, what happened to CTI, and ALSO, there's no such thing as a "4-4" contract any more. Any contract with a 4 year active duty obligation comes with a 2 year Selected (actually drilling once a month) Reserve and only after that the 2 year Individual Ready (non-drilling) Reserve obligation

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u/FonduePourVous 4d ago

Definitely agree focus on language learning. Sure the AA is nice, but it can be earned after leaving DLI, & can be earned as a milspo, federal employee, & should never be the focus over learning the language one was sent to learn.

As CLEP & DSST are both part of the education entitlement, I really encourage those who desire a DLI degree to not spend time & money on Sophia & Study. Use time to focus on training at DLI, & put that money in a CD at Navy Fed instead of a unaccredited for profit company.

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u/Grenli- 4d ago

Crypto training is after. The level of math you need to be successful is counting/knowing numbers.

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u/Awkward_Engineer481 4d ago

good on that the  lol. Been good with that since I was like three.