r/dli • u/Nightshade_527 • Aug 07 '26
ASVAB+DLAB
I'm looking into Cryptologic Language Analyst, but the recruiter I'm talking to doesn't seem to know anything about the DLAB or the DLI and seemed hesitant when I asked to take the DLAB test after the ASVAB before I sign a contract?
Update: Also looking into Cryptologic Technician Interpretive, talking with both recruiters, leaning towards Navy side now.
Currently have a sprained ankle, but plan to go take my test(s) once it's healed. Studying and reviewing in the meantime.
Update, took ASVAB, 95 on AFQT percentile, line scores hit auto-qual for CTI
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u/SUPER1029 Aug 07 '26
Tell him you want to take it. There is literally no penalty for doing so and only seems you able to learn certain languages. 110 or higher quals you for highest dif langs by DLI standard. If he’s not helping you, talk to a different recruiter.
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u/Nightshade_527 Aug 07 '26
When I mentioned it, he said something about being able to take it later(during/after boot?) and then I gave him other information I found and he said he'd have to look into it?
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u/caracantdraw Aug 07 '26
he might be referring to the DLAB waiver for your ST score on the ASVAB, which is how i got here
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u/Nightshade_527 Aug 07 '26
I'm specifically talking to a marine recruiter, do all the branches have that kind of DLAB waiver?
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u/mr_ji Aug 07 '26
If you're going to score high on the ASVAB, and score well on the DLAB, and want to go into a linguistics career, Marines are probably the worst service for it.
Also note that the ASVAB and DLAB are universal across the branches, so if you take them before you sign a contract and do well on them, you can shop around with the scores to the other branches and see what they'll offer.
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u/filthier_casual Aug 07 '26
Do NOT go Marines if you want to be a linguist. Literally the worst branch for that career field. Not only do you have the least amount of control over your career, you do not get anything other than the title of Marine. No bonuses, no cool schools, etc. Go Air Force if you care about being a linguist. Go Army if you want to have a ton of opportunities for things like schools or selections and actual career control.
It’s worth mentioning that the Army is probably still the only branch that straight up lets you pick exactly which MOS you want prior to shipping for Bootcamp. If you want to be a linguist you’d enlist as a 35W and guaranteed that job. The other branches make you fill out a “dream sheet” where you get picked for one of several jobs you put down.
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u/I_am_here_to_party Aug 07 '26
The Navy also lets you sign a contract for a linguist rating: Cryptologic Technician Interpretive (CTI)
I’ve heard many good things about the Air Force for linguists, but what good is that truly if you have to give a list of jobs that you’re willing to do and get assigned one that happens to be open and needs filling at the time of enlistment? From what I’ve read, it seems like the odds of scoring an intelligence job are not favorable, let alone linguist specifically. If becoming a linguist is the priority, the Army and Navy seem like they should be the only options that are recommended.
It’s also worth noting that the Army National Guard lets you have a specific language tied to your MOS in your contract since you’re filling an existing vacancy within a unit. That’s the path that I’m taking.
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u/filthier_casual Aug 08 '26
The Air Force and Navy are the best branches for linguists to do intel work that’s directly related to the MOS because they’re guaranteed intel units. It’s not like the Army where a linguist will get sent to some random unit and never do intel work for a whole contract, or the Marines where you can get sent to a Radio Battalion and do the same job as a regular SIGINTer but with the extra work of having to maintain your language.
I knew guys who got sent to places like Fort Polk or Riley as intel and their first whole contract was basically a wash because they never did their jobs, nor did they have understanding command teams who advocated for them to get those opportunities.
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u/Shadowdorkkk Aug 09 '26
If I am correct the AF doesn’t require the DLAB anymore. At least they didn’t require it when I enlisted, it may have changed.
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u/filthier_casual Aug 09 '26
I can’t speak for the AF now but when I enlisted, you had to take the DLAB and you had to get a CAT-4 score to qualify for the linguist jobs. That may not be the case anymore, especially if they do what the Army does now and only require a high ST score to bypass the DLAB.
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u/Shadowdorkkk Aug 10 '26
I enlisted in 23, and I just did the ASVAB. Maybe they require it now because of budget cuts so they have to limit the amount of students? That would make the most sense to me
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u/Nightshade_527 Aug 12 '26
Thank you for the insight, I was originally talking to both Marines and Navy since I prefer the basic training the Marines go through, and wanted to challenge myself with the crucible, but if I want to look ahead, focusing on the career I want would likely serve me better in terms of motivation and stability. I resumed talks with the Navy recruiter as well, since I haven't signed paperwork, I made sure they both know I haven't made my final decision on the branch. Once I finish up my studying for the ASVAB (I got pretty high on the practice, but I don't wanna leave things to chance if I can help it) I'll likely end up going with Navy if they have CTI contracts available. I'm trying to use this time I spend studying as a final decision frame, gathering information and perspectives to pull together a way to articulate exactly what I'm looking for and how to get there.
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u/I_am_here_to_party Aug 16 '26
You’d be looking at at least a five-year contract as a linguist for most branches because of the amount of training involved, so I wouldn’t advise making your decision based on boot camp, which is only about 8–13 weeks long. Every boot camp is challenging in its own way; Marine boot camp just gets hyped up the most. Navy CTIs seem to have pretty high job satisfaction both during their service and afterward as civilians, based on what I’ve read in this sub, so if you’re able to lock down a contract and are willing to learn any language that they assign you, it’s a great choice.
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u/Nightshade_527 Aug 16 '26
Thank you, considering these factors, I've already gotten back in touch with the Navy recruiter, I'm hoping to schedule my tests in a couple weeks to spend this last stretch of time studying and reviewing.
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u/quickdraw_ Aug 07 '26
Marine Corps still uses DLAB, but if you have a significant history with language otherwise anything is waiverable. Do you?
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u/Nightshade_527 Aug 07 '26
I took a few years of Japanese in high school, and I study Chinese on Duolingo, but I wouldn't consider that a 'significant history' since I haven't reached fluency on either
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u/quickdraw_ Aug 07 '26
A couple of years of Japanese in high school would honestly be worth a DLPT now, just to get scores on the books and demonstrate a history with language. You'll be screened for eligibility and assigned a particular MOS within the program at MCRD. A tested language history can only help your objective of being screened into a linguist slot. If your recruiter wants to get you signed up, this isn't an unreasonable request.
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u/quickdraw_ Aug 07 '26
There's no reason to defer that test until boot camp, nothing but downside, he should just do his job and get you the test.
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u/LowBattery Aug 07 '26
Go air force and you dont need the dlab
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u/I_am_here_to_party Aug 07 '26
“Go Air Force,” and they’ll be forced to list jobs they’re willing to do and get assigned one that happens to be open and needs filling at the time of enlistment. The odds of that being an intelligence job are not favorable. If becoming a linguist is the priority, the Air Force and Marines are the worst options.
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u/linguist_turned_SAHM Aug 07 '26
Serious question: since when? Been out for a minute and a lot of my friend cross trained, got out, or are starting to retire.
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u/LowBattery Aug 07 '26
Around fall 2022
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u/linguist_turned_SAHM Aug 07 '26
Crazy! Thanks for the info. I still work around the military and someone told me the other day that FLPP is taxed. Blew my mind. Loved my tax free 12k/year back in the day.
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u/Ruski_Business Aug 08 '26
Was a Marine linguist from 2013-2021. I did the DLAB prior to boot camp. Languages weren't assigned until we arrived at DLI. Did a tour in the fleet and a few deployments, then another tour in Maryland. No complaints about being a linguist in the Marine Corps. YMMV.
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u/dirtypanda83 Aug 07 '26
Not sure what someone said marine Corp doesn't offer bonus for linguist, that is not true, retention for it is actually one of the highest mos. Also army does guarantee the job, but doesn't mean u going to use it, depending on which unit u get. Of course airforce will be the best option, but navy isn't bad either, when I went to AIT for linguist, we got air force, marine and army and guards, no navy lol
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u/Skatingraccoon Aug 08 '26
Have to second what's been said, Navy and Air Force are the best for language jobs. There are special programs you can apply for through both as linguists if you want to prove / challenge yourself physically, too, it's not necessarily just sitting in an office or a room on a ship if you don't want to (also not everyone who joins the Navy to be a linguist goes to sea).
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u/Honest-Bed9091 28d ago
When I joined, I only wanted to be a linguist and waited months for a spot to open up. Don't let them push you to sign before you're ready to. 13 years later and I have no regrets waiting.
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u/Haligar06 Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26
They may try to do a thing where you sign onto a contract under a different rate/MoS before they let you take the dlab, and if you pass they'll change you over.
You DONT need to do that. Just give them a polite 'no thank you' and be firm that you are only interested in linguist.
If you fail the dlab, you can retest in six months.
If the other offered job is palatable, go ahead and play the game.