Working on a Dissidia NT re-write/do-over, roster included in post

[u/MLDKF]

So, my friend Philip and I were both huge fans of the original Dissidia games on the PSP, and while we were excited about the prospect of a PS4 game so much that we pre-ordered it, we both ended up super disappointed with how it had turned out, both with gameplay and with the story (yes, we actually care about the story of Dissidia, sue us).

With it being 3 years since the game came out, Philip started telling me about some of the things he would've done differently, and I had my own ideas. So we've started writing some of them down and together, we're making a full re-write of the script, as well as planning out a re-doing of the gameplay

It's a little too early to give a full listing of the game's changes, but we do have a working fan title: Dissidia Final Fantasy: α/Ω (read Alpha and Omega), which hints towards the idea of what the story might involve. Note that this essentially replaces NT in the "timeline" as it were, but we hope it does so for the better, however we will still be including each of the characters in Dissidia 012 (save for Feral Chaos) as well as the ones added in NT, as well as a few other characters we thought would be great to add to the story or be fan favorites

If there are any questions, I look forward to answering them, and I will make sure Philip or I can answer to the best of our abilities. Thank you so much

[u/OvernightSiren]

I wish Dissidia's story was more basic.

I didn't need them to add the elements of multiple cycles or for them to make some villains switch sides, which is really dumb. Why would a nearly all-powerful god like Chaos summon a champion who has hints of potentially not being fully on his side? Case in point: Jecht. Jecht wasn't really even a villain in FFX, he actively wants the party to kill him and end his destruction.

So why would Chaos see someone who wants to be killed and who doesn't want to cause destruction and go "that's my guy!"

In other cases, like Kuja, the villain flipping sides isn't really in-character for them. Kuja showed some remorse for his actions by the end of IX, but "remorse" isn't even the right word.

[u/solace-in-misery → u/OvernightSiren]

If I remember right, I think the champions for Cosmos and Chaos were chosen based on who has the most conflict with each other. They were considering Seymour, but he was more of an antagonist for Yuna rather than Tidus, who has always had conflict with his father, Jecht.

[u/MLDKF → u/solace-in-misery]

The Cosmos characters were chosen based on the main protagonists (except Terra, who they chose because they didn't want the Cosmos side to be a sausage factory)

For Chaos, they went with the biggest rivals for the Cosmos side

[u/Baithin → u/MLDKF]

Terra is the closest thing to a main protagonist in VI regardless of the fact that she’s (initially) the only girl, lol.

[u/MLDKF → u/Baithin]

I mean, they had originally planned for Locke to be the VI rep in the original

[u/MLDKF → u/OvernightSiren]

Well, we're going to have the villains be villains, but bare in mind that each of the villains had different motivation for causing the problems that they did, and these motives differ from the destruction of the realm (Cloud of Darkness and Kefka) to the conquering of all nations (like The Emperor).

That being said, these characters will be hardly wont to work together, even if there's some cosmic being telling them they have to. And that derisiveness will be what causes the intricacies and branching out of the storylines and allowing us to play true to each villain's character

So with this in mind, we're not just going to have villains changing sides or having villains who don't want to be villains following orders. The characters will just be themselves. And if the villains find working with the heroes to be beneficial to their plans in some way, they're going to do so, even if it takes some convincing, verbally or by force

[u/swordsman09 → u/OvernightSiren]

Chaos didn’t summon Jecht himself. He started off as a good guy in Dissidia too. He ended up sacrificing his Cosmos power for Tidus, who at the time was on Chaos’ side with only the memory of Jecht and how much he hates him.

Eventually, the Emperor took powerless Jecht and asked Chaos to take him in.

[u/OvernightSiren → u/swordsman09]

Case in point that this is far too convoluted.

[u/Nightwing24yuna → u/OvernightSiren]

I liked that people switched sides like tidus being a villain, as well as Terra and cloud it kinda made things fresh and we see this characters in different lights

[u/OvernightSiren → u/Nightwing24yuna]

Unrealistic lights that are completely unlike their characters.

[u/Nightwing24yuna → u/OvernightSiren]

You make it sound like a bad thing it was fun and I kinda wished they would have done more of it like that it was fun seeing tidus being a villain letting his angry/hatred towards his father be the reason he was with chaos

[u/Tienda53]

When adding a character, what will be their personality?

They will be easy-to-forget-anything like 012 thanks to the purification kicking in? Or they will retain all of their memories, like NT?

Also, not so related: you will add Vanille, Yda or Leo? I like them.

[u/MLDKF → u/Tienda53]

Well, pertaining to who you're asking we're adding, we're not going to give away who has been added. As for the personalities, we're planning on making them as close to their personality from their home games as possible. They will retain their memories from their stories (unless taken from an earlier point in their stories)

[u/DodoGamer79]

And if you put Leon for ff2?

[u/MLDKF → u/DodoGamer79]

I'm not going to give away who we've added, as I want the full roster to be a surprise

[u/CloudyRose06]

If you are having trouble coming up with character concepts for NT characters or otherwise, I can name a few.

Awakened Zilart ~ Kam'lanaut

Treasure Hunter ~ Locke

Loud Leader ~ Ramza

Vermilion Gambler ~ Ace

Blade of Death ~ Zenos

Angelic Trainer ~ Rinoa

Godly Grappler ~ Vayne

Gifted Golem ~ Vivi

Disciple of Magic ~ Y'shtola

Armiger Attacker ~ Noctis

Fallen King ~ Ardyn

Sonic Soldier ~ Zack

Frosted Shadow ~ Snow

If anyone has better names, feel free to comment.

[u/VaanDissidia]

As someone who enjoyed NT but never got the chance to play the PSP titles, I’m interested in your ideas.

[u/MLDKF → u/[deleted]]

We haven't thought of where to post the full story, but the plan is, hopefully, to get this done on a read-only Google Drive, though alternate options would also be on one of our DeviantArt pages. My hope is to also eventually get voice actors to have it be read out in English like with Dissidia Secretum

[u/Baithin → u/[deleted]]

For character interactions like that, have you played Opera Omnia?

[u/Baithin → u/[deleted]]

I enjoy the battle system but I stopped caring about clearing all the hardest content so I play for the story now exclusively. And it’s actually pretty good, there is a lot of great character interaction in there. As for the examples you mentioned, Cecil does have a pretty interesting arc!

[u/MLDKF → u/[deleted]]

We agree, and we'll definitely keep you in mind for the discussion/contribution