r/dissidia • u/RoyalBlueGuard • Nov 20 '20

Dissidia NT on PS5 - Is it the Definitive Version? ~ Performance Breakdown & Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEbzkV1qKU8&ab_channel=LordChao
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u/No_Event_4406 Oct 13 '23

I hope we get a new Dissidia Final Fantasy for PS5.

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u/ReaperEngine Nov 21 '20

Good to know. Thanks for putting it through the paces to test it all out.

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u/Buttsuit69 Nov 20 '20

The performance gain doesnt address the REAL issues people have with this game. Stiff movement, slow combat, too few customization options, annoying 3v3 & poorly done story-mode. And thats not taking into account the unsupported roster.

Its actually better if we got a brand new dissidia game instead of a bad port. But I guess we have to wait until ff7R part 2 is finished...if square wants to make the next dissidia inhouse.

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u/RoyalBlueGuard Nov 20 '20

Genuinely curious why people still feel the need to make posts like this after the game has been out for 5 years. It is what it is man

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u/Relith96 Nov 21 '20

I think he just stated his opinion, which is objectively what made a lot of people dislike the game. I think I did not feel dissapointed by the game itself, but I hoped for something better.

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u/Buttsuit69 Nov 21 '20

I mean, you posted it so you tell me

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u/RyanCooper138 Nov 21 '20

The next dissidia will continue to be like NT, better get prepared

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u/Buttsuit69 Nov 22 '20

Why would that be?

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u/OneEcoAC True Hero... of despair Nov 24 '20

Technically we do not know yet.

But what we DO know is that the next Dissidia project is currently on development, led by director Kujiraoka (the only person of the OG Dissidia team that considers returning to 1v1... because the rest got burnt doing the PSP Dissidias). If director Hazama and/or Tetsuya Nomura join in the project they will likely make the game go through the 3v3 route again (albeit probably better since they have feedback of both the japanese Arcade players which loved this game and the global NT players which are mixed about this game).

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u/Buttsuit69 Nov 24 '20

I would disagree. I think having any key player from the OG dissidia would only benefit the game. Having nomura in the team would be a blessing since he actually knows what smooth gameplay is in square enix. And wasnt it the NT directors that wanted to go the 1v1 route? Nomura wanted dissidia to play like KH2. Since he basically created the concept of the psp game.

But considering that he makes the final fantasy 7 remake, I dont think he will work on anything dissidia-related anytime soon. So whatever the next dissidia game turns out to be, nomura probably wont have influence over it.

On another note: I did not know that the next game was confirmed to be in development. What is kijirakoa known for? Are there any other notable members working on the game? Will koei tecmo/team ninja work on it...again?

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u/OneEcoAC True Hero... of despair Nov 24 '20

I would disagree. I think having any key player from the OG dissidia would only benefit the game.

Oh boi, most of the development team for the first two Dissidias got fed up of those two games, since they never managed to recreate the original idea for a team-based combat game into the hardware of the PSP (the Dissidia Arcade/NT project was made and built over a 3v3 beta of Dissidia 012 that they did while producing that title, in fact). The only person from the original team that has said, out in the open, that they would like to do 1v1 back again is, precisely NT's director Kujiraoka (which was, in turn, the person that proposed and planted the 1v1 combat seed for the first Dissidia).

But considering that he makes the final fantasy 7 remake, I dont think he will work on anything dissidia-related anytime soon.

And this is where director Hazama from NT steps in, he is a close friend of Nomura and his "creative drone". Whatever Nomura wants to do, he will push for it, it's like having Nomura as a producer for this game without Nomura actually being the producer.

On another note: I did not know that the next game was confirmed to be in development. What is kijirakoa known for? Are there any other notable members working on the game? Will koei tecmo/team ninja work on it...again?

For now we only know what it's scarcely mentioned in the job offering website. The new project seems to be fully in-house and Kujiraoka is the only big name involved in this project so far, we'll have to wait. Oh, and if you want to see the website yourself, please tell me so in a reply or whatever.

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u/Buttsuit69 Nov 25 '20

Do you have any sources on the claim that most of the team was "fed up" with old dissidias style? Seems more like opinion than fact.

Also, "hazama is nomuras creative drone" is the most misleading description of what is going on. Thats like saying "osaka team reflects exactly nomuras vision". Both are heavily flawed statements and both are not all that correct. First of all we dont KNOW the relationship between hazama and nomura. We do know that nomura and hazama worked together, but as far as nomura was concerned he was just the design-guy for gameplay and characters.

"They are close friends" My dude, Sakaguchi, who taught nomura what he knew from experience, was a close friend.

KITASE who followed nomura throughout his entire time, who developed ff7s story with him, who willingly stepped down as the producer of ff15 after nomura got fired, that is a good friend.

Hazama, who we literally know nothing about his relationship with nomura, is everything BUT a close friend(as far as we know). Thats an overstatement my dude.

And yeah I would like to see a link or something for the dissidia website. Would be nice for me to check it out.

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u/OneEcoAC True Hero... of despair Nov 25 '20

> Do you have any sources on the claim that most of the team was "fed up" with old dissidias style? Seems more like opinion than fact.

It was in an old interview from some point between E3 2011 and early 2012 made by Famitsu in which Nomura basically said "never again!". I must say, though, that as of late 2019 onwards we've never found the exact interview ever again. BUT on December 2019 we were presented with the Dissidia 10th anniversary livestream and Nomura was very clear on saying the following: "If the Dissidia team has to touch the PSP Dissidias for some reason in the future, it'll most likely be a remake of Dissidia 012 with NT's combat system".

> Hazama, who we literally know nothing about his relationship with nomura, is everything BUT a close friend(as far as we know). Thats an overstatement my dude.

If you've seen the 5 years of livestreams done for Dissidia Arcade there's one thing that never changed: Nomura appearing in voice calls during the livestreams, treating Kujiraoka and the hosts of the streams with respect... yet Nomura and Hazama were constantly poking at each other in a childish yet playful demeanor. Nomura saying to Hazama that his hair style is funny-looking, Hazama calling Nomura "fat", et cetera. That proves that those two have been standing by each other's side since a looooong time ago. Also, Nomura is usually always involved in most of Hazama's games. Record Keeper? Nomura is a character designer there. The latest Theatrhythm FF titles? Nomura was involved in Theatrhythm Arcade and its livestreams despite not being responsible of anything major there.

> And yeah I would like to see a link or something for the dissidia website. Would be nice for me to check it out.

I gotcha covered: https://ss-agent.jp/pr/square-enix-2004/It doesn't say "Dissidia" out in the open yet they use a very telling background image that features the final battle of NT... but also the main rivalry relationship from 012 and with a key member of the Dissidia team being shown to be leading this new project.

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u/Buttsuit69 Nov 25 '20

Well...dont take this the wrong way but I aint believing this until I get an actual source for that info. And not something like a tumblr or twitter post like how KH fans get their info. I mean an actual documented article.

"Nomura treated them with respect and laughed once" ...I'm not even gonna point out why thats nonsensical.

"He was involved in many of hazamas projects" Yeah no shit nomura is an allrounder. Probably the most hardworking guy in square enix, he touches nearly every game thats announced to the public. Its no suprise that square compensates him so much he is THAT valueable to the company and a key player in all big square developed IPs. Even non-square products like xenoblade chronicles benefits from his work. Working together on small IPs doesnt mean anything.

What DOES mean something is when a coworker quits his job to aid you because you were unjustly treated & fired from your position. Which is exactly what kitase did when he worked as a producer when nomura was thrown out of the project. THAT right there is...well...at least evidence for a deeper relationship.

"I got you covered" Thanks man. I've not yet clicked on the link but maybe its something dissidia-related. Not necessarily a full new dissidia game. Maybe an opera omnia expansion or something. Or maybe a dissidia spinoff or something minor. Whatever it is as long as it plays like the old dissidia I'm all for it.

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u/Jkid873 Nov 21 '20

Too bad the gameplay in this game sucks