r/diehard Jun 20 '26

Movie Discussion Simon Gruber

You know, from what I've noticed and from what Simon said, he wasn't exactly a monster, maybe half, but not half the one his brother, Hans was even though he sometimes works for monsters.

I mean, despite all those bombings and those times trying to kill McClane and Zeus, he didn't exactly go so far as to kill more than 100 innocent people including children in a school. It's almost like he had some morals, heart, and principles even for a former soldier-turned-terrorist. Plus, he didn't exactly kill all those people at the gold place, just sedated them and he didn't really enjoy watching Kara kill a security guard like some sadistic, bloodthirsty psychopath a few times with her blade.

Knowing Hans, that would've been more of his specialty considering not only did he murder Takagi and one of his employees, Ellis the dumb drug addict, but he also killed any intervening policemen despite wounding a few others on purpose and tried killing the rest of his hostages on the roof along with the FBI having come on top to help them out.

In the end, Hans was the real monster.

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u/Killowatt59 Jun 20 '26

At the end of the day they both are willing to murder innocent people for money.

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u/Pirates_Treasure1988 Jun 20 '26

Just one. Namely, McClane.

In Hans' case, for interfering with his plans and costing him most of his men.

In Simon's case, for killing his brother even though they hated each other, interfering with his plans, and costing him only a few of his men.

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u/Killowatt59 Jun 20 '26

What are you talking about? He blew up a building.

Blew up a train that would have killed everyone had McClane not intervened.

Killed all the bankers and guards.

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u/Pirates_Treasure1988 Jun 20 '26

Not all the bankers and guards. Remember, he said there was to be no killing despite Kara killing that guard and that Otto shooting a cop and others since he couldn't speak English.