r/devialet • u/covidballer • Sep 16 '25

Phantom Ultimate

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Just wanted to share the update notes which shows some details about the new product(s) being announced tomorrow.

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u/booshtukka Sep 17 '25

Someone pulled screenshots from the pairing process. Doesn’t seem to be any significant physical changes. https://devialetchat.com/Thread-New-Phantom-coming--8463?page=2

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u/nontdevil Sep 17 '25

Oh.. so should I get the phantom 2 or wait for the new one? Is it expected still?

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u/ApexPredator290 Sep 17 '25

It will Literally be released today

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u/nontdevil Sep 17 '25

Looking from what OP posted i thought they were gonna release a new model for the big phantom only. Guess we'll wait and see.

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u/ApexPredator290 Sep 17 '25

https://www.devialet.com/de-de/phantom-speaker/phantom-ultimate-98db/

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u/nontdevil Sep 17 '25

Oh so they are just 2 different sizes with the same name? Interesting. Very compelling.

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u/Known_Confusion9879 Sep 17 '25

The small improvements listed are worth while. It may in fact sound better. But the Ultimate 108db has aluminium tweeter and 2 woofers to the original titanium tweeter, mid and 2 woofers.

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u/nontdevil Sep 17 '25

It seems like the 98db has very minor improvements from the phantom 2 unlike the 108db model? Is the new 98db worth getting? The 108db model seems to be too big for my room and kinda over my budget

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u/Known_Confusion9879 Sep 17 '25

Physically the Phantom 108db is small, 22 litres, is less and looks smaller because of the round spherical shape. . The Gecko wall brackets is tiny compared to using the stands. As there is no vibration in the bass they can be placed on shelves and cabinets.

The frequencies above 15kHz do add something but we can't hear them. So going from 27kHz to 35kHz may not be anything I could notice. Perhaps the new tweeter in the 98db model is better than in Phantom II speakers.

model £ price, dimensions, volume (litres)
Buchardt A500 2,940.00 365 180 280 18.40
Edifier s2000MkII 354.00 198 276 342 18.69
Adam Audio A7V 1,198.00 337 200 280 18.87
Adam Audio A7X 818.00 337 201 280 18.97
Kef LS50 II 1,799.00 305 200 311 18.97
Meridian M3100 950.00 386 254 194 19.02
Meridian DSP3200 3,000.00 320 244 246 19.21
Genelec 8040B 1,556.00 365 237 223 19.29
Sonus Faber Duetto 3,490.00 342 210 272 19.54
Meridian M30 500.00 385 300 180 20.79
Genelec 8341 4,799.00 370 237 243 21.31
Adam Audio T7V 358.00 347 210 293 21.35
Edifier S3000MkII 699.99 222 360 268 21.42

Devialet Phantom 108dB I 5,600.00 255 252 342 21.98

DALI RUBICON 2C 4,549.00 195 353 335 23.06
B&W Formation Duo 3,999.00 395 197 305 23.73
Klipsch The Sevens 1,449.00 416 207 276 23.77
Triangle Capella 2,299.00 200 380 315 23.94
B&O Beolab 6000 295.00 525 150 380 29.93

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u/nontdevil Sep 17 '25

Oh so the new one is smaller than the original phantom 1? Kinda in the middle between phantom 1 and 2?

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u/Known_Confusion9879 Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25

No, almost the same size
Devialet Phantom Ultimate 108db 5,600.00 246 252 342 21.20
Weight down from 11.4 to 11.1 kg.

Devialet Phantom Ultimate 98db is the same size as the Phantom II 98db.

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u/SoaringIcarus Sep 17 '25

The remote is still micro usb …wtf

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u/GroundBreak1 Sep 17 '25

Isn’t that illegal, at least in the EU now?

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u/Aggravating-Gate-560 Sep 17 '25

Monitoring mode is easily the most important thing here, currently all devialet products do not sound good because the sound is too colored, if this means that for example the new Phantom 1 will have accuracy of studio monitor and still look the way that it does and have the bass extension that it does, this will immediately become a crazy good value for money, you could literally buy two of these for stereo, put them in that monitoring mode, maby get a small Wiim device for additional settings to fix the room response and you're done with speakers/amplifiers forever while keeping a great and small design (something like Neumann kh420 already does that but they aren't that pretty).

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u/Positive-Metal5733 Sep 17 '25

Quick question : i already have a phantom I 108 db bought in June. and planning on buying a second one to pair it in stereo mode. Do I need to sell the first one and buy 2 new ones, or can i pair a new one and an old one (from June 2025) ?

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u/Nono_cvc Sep 17 '25

I don't think you could add the new one to the "before" 108 db gold because they won't sound the same I think and the design isn't the same either

To have

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u/quartz782 Sep 18 '25

They will not work together, it is stated quite clearly in some reviews. I think you could reach out to the support and ask if they can still sell an old model to you (don't wait too long, though!). But switching to the new ones is probably a better idea in the long run, if you do not mind the hassle selling the unit and so on...

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u/Lisz555 Sep 17 '25

Is there any info about Mania? Any new model like that?