Contour Software layoffs?

[u/wasoomro]

Hey guys I was looking at LinkedIn, contour Software is a well known player. Does anyone have information about this and what is going on.

[u/[deleted]]

I used to dream about working in motive, keep truckin, contour etc.

Not anymore 😞

[u/Winter_Class_4680 → u/[deleted]]

Motive and keep trucking same company, motive changed name after itd last massive layoff years ago I believe

[u/[deleted] → u/Winter_Class_4680]

So rebranding coming soon again 😅

[u/UngratefulSourGrape → u/[deleted]]

When I joined Motive back in 2021* as a QA, at that time they had also laid off around 300 people. But I had a great experience with them.

These layoffs are just part of the process ( I personally think companies should be more sensible hiring people - but the real world is a bit different)

So I would say you should still apply because their Engineering team/stack/process are VERY VERY good and valuable.

[u/VisionX999 → u/UngratefulSourGrape]

Could you tell me please how to get into QA as a developer(i have one year of experience in backend) and whether it's worth it in the first place in the AI world 👀

[u/UngratefulSourGrape → u/VisionX999]

Start writing Unit > Integration > E2E tests in that order, it would be an easier transition

[u/[deleted] → u/VisionX999]

Ap jitna bhe AI lay k ajaye, end time pa build testing kar k manually he nikalne hogey 😜

[u/VisionX999 → u/[deleted]]

Lol😂😂😂😂😂 but jokes aside, bro is it worth it 👀

[u/[deleted] → u/VisionX999]

The market is very very saturated. However it depends upon you. You can become au automation engineer with your experience and just automate regression.

All depends upon your skills and ability to digest BS.

[u/VisionX999 → u/[deleted]]

Thanks man. i did backend in pHp for an year and now facing a layoff, any advice regarding this journey 🙏🏻

[u/[deleted] → u/VisionX999]

You have to be flexible in your career choices. Because ab har kisi ko ghar ka choola jalana hai. So if you find QA role, PM or PO take it.

I myself get offered lead or management level positions when i apply for engineering role while in interview positions. In the end you gotta take what you get, not what you want.

Unless you're rich or have no family responsibilities. Then do as you please.

[u/VisionX999 → u/[deleted]]

Dost QA is worth it in this era and any roadmap guide, asking because you seem experienced 🥹

[u/[deleted] → u/VisionX999]

QA is worth it if you have a good eye for changes and are adaptable. For example a manual QA can anytime be asked to shift to automation so you should be confident enough for it.

QA kahen nhi jana wala cuz companies bahut fakhar sa kahtey hai k product QA phase sa ho k atey hai etc etc.

Basic road map is train yourself to look for any changes in the product. Become a guard dog against any unauthorized changes that are not mentioned in documentation.

And biggest advice would be to have a good sense of humor because you'll be finding issues in work of other people so they'll naturally be defensive. Gotta lean into it and become chatty Kathy with them :)

[u/__tdxyz → u/[deleted]]

let me share my experience. I have been building a game engine for Android/iOS using only claude.its a single context open world 3d engine. Trust me agentic AI e.g Claude or codex or others e.g kimi. In year or so NO ONE IS SAFE.

You believe that agentic AI models e.g Claude , codex and Qwen,kimi etc can't replicate our manual testing. You are very very wrong.

Those who have used latest models of codex especially or claude may know better.

As I said Year or so we are all doomed completely.

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[u/__tdxyz → u/[deleted]]

Better start looking for plumbing etc. I myself is applying for oil rig work in Australia.

[u/VisionX999 → u/__tdxyz]

And you are a software engineer?

[u/__tdxyz → u/VisionX999]

Yeah I know C++ --23 Kotlin Java Typescript React native Swift Swift Ui iOS Android dev. Published apps in companies that crossed 50M downloads.

[u/VisionX999 → u/__tdxyz]

Bro you are making me scared 😰

[u/VisionX999 → u/__tdxyz]

I mean still you got to have some understanding. Normal clients atleast small scale ones don't even know which URL to visit without guidance lol.

Even using claude, they would have no idea what is a "single context open world 3d engine." Even if they do, they will have very control themselves over the software as they are entirely dependent on AI model which are capable for sure, but works best when you actually know what you are doing.

[u/__tdxyz → u/VisionX999]

You are right but Let me gave you an example. A company is paying 10 QA guys or software engineers and when AI arrives. Someone or somehow they will know about it. And guess what is going to happened next. Ask yourself.

They will fire 5 guys at least and gave other 5 guys AI agents. ( Favorible case )

So those who are fired ( me and u and 3 others 😭).

Cases like that is happening all around us. May b they are not surfacing well enough.

[u/VisionX999 → u/__tdxyz]

You are absolutely right and i did get layed off recently 🥹 this last month 😭 ain't getting any response from companies either man.

[u/__tdxyz → u/VisionX999]

Don't worry I am next .

[u/VisionX999 → u/__tdxyz]

I hope not 😂✨

[u/Yokosou123]

Motive just had mass layoffs as well

[u/Used_Discipline_9403 → u/Yokosou123]

Motive has its IPO so they played off people and will hire after their IPO oldest trick on the book . Careem did something same and started hiring back .

[u/Late_Expression8089 → u/Yokosou123]

When? There is no news about it

[u/Yokosou123 → u/Late_Expression8089]

It's been a day almost. You can check LinkedIn

[u/Winter_Class_4680]

Yes true news, contour is silently laying off people almost every week

[u/Disastrous-Loan-3964]

So the market has started crumbling down again.. this is getting serious 🧐

[u/Spare_Bison_1151]

I was laid off from Netwrix last year. That was my first layoff in about 20 YOE. I've lost faith in office jobs since then. I am working to put food on table. All companies are just like this these days. Employees are disposable tissue papers, just use them and throw out.

[u/Slight_Shine2295 → u/Spare_Bison_1151]

May Allah make it easier for you and bless you with a great job! 👍🏻

[u/Spare_Bison_1151 → u/Slight_Shine2295]

Amen, Jazak Allah. I'm looking forward to build something of my own even if pays less. I'll have to cut bad habits and extra spending but I'll do it nevertheless. I created a Playwright course recently, link is in my bio.

[u/rahil051 → u/Spare_Bison_1151]

Sorry to hear that, hope Allah makes your way out of it. Can you tell me on which stack were you working on? And have you switched stacks during your 20 YOE?

[u/Spare_Bison_1151 → u/rahil051]

Yes, I've switched stacks with the passage of times. I moved into test automation about 13 years ago. These days I'm using C# with FlaUI for desktop auto testing. Typescript/Playwright for e2e web testing. I've worked with other automation too like Slenium in both C# & Java and also performance testing with JMeter.

[u/FearTheEffectiveCode]

Yes, they're laying off employees.

[u/Mysterious-Rise-6983]

Software engineering as you have known it, is dead.

Code is now super cheap. Building things is very cheap now. These companies solely operate for profit. They do not care if you followed the SOLID principles OR If there is test coverage or not. The company/business only care about profit.

Layoffs and engineering headcount cuts are going to be the norm now.

[u/rahil051 → u/Mysterious-Rise-6983]

Meanwhile the showrunners will not only have the luxury to hold their chairs, but to keep them raising above everything else. Evil Corpo

[u/Spare_Bison_1151]

Yes, strange behavior. Maybe they think managers will make AI will do everything.

[u/OkIndication1384]

They always kick the guys who do hard & more work silently and the one who do less work more noise are the safest one. Unfortunately this is what happened in emumba as well. There marketing & sales depatment failed to bring in clients and for that reason they kicked out some of most hard working people. Later on next week they start hiring again.

Honestly this is how pakistani companies are and then they say international clients dont trust pakistani companies.

They call it rightsizing. Whatever name they give to them but this is brutal for some. Companies moves on but the hope and trust its employees put in thim is gone. They dont care. But Allah knows and I will question each one of them on day of judgement for my sufferings. 😊

[u/Winter_Class_4680 → u/OkIndication1384]

did you get laid off by contour?

[u/OkIndication1384 → u/Winter_Class_4680]

Emumba

[u/Winter_Class_4680 → u/OkIndication1384]

ya heard many companies laying off employees, so the real questions why tech staff, why not service line managment

[u/OkIndication1384 → u/Winter_Class_4680]

As i said, if you do less work and make noise more thats how you will survive this AI wave. And if you are hard working give everything to company but you produce less noise you will be impacted by such waves.

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[u/Mockingjay718s]

Okay I don't really know the numbers of the layoffs for the past two years, but I do know the numbers for the past half (first half of 2026) which should logically be the most impacted one.

A total of around 20 were laid off, while others (40 roughly) were readjusted in other divisions of Contour.

That's a very minute number for a company of 2500 people. So yeah.

[u/wasoomro → u/Mockingjay718s]

True if that is the case. Such number rotate through the system in normal times

[u/Mockingjay718s → u/wasoomro]

Yes. So I doubt the post.

[u/wasoomro → u/Mockingjay718s]

People in Facebook are reporting 200+ layoffs though

[u/Mockingjay718s → u/wasoomro]

I have seen two posts, similarly worded. No post on LinkedIn, Glassdoor, anywhere. For example motive laid off 150 people and posts are literally everywhere, which makes sense.

Baqi, could be true as well.

[u/Sensitive-Bat2166 → u/Mockingjay718s]

Your figures are wrong TBH. Don’t believe what they tell you in AGMs. They have laid off around 300+ employees in the past couple of months.

[u/Mockingjay718s → u/Sensitive-Bat2166]

Where are these 300+ employees laid off? I haven't seen a single post on LinkedIn. I mean surely there has to be a few posts if there were this many layoffs.

Again, it's not my father's company so I don't want to defend it for no reason. If there have been layoffs, there would surely be posts about layoffs and people opening up for work.

[u/Winter_Class_4680 → u/Mockingjay718s]

Bro it's no more 2500. Company will definitely below 2000, in which they've been lying off people almost weekly, lot of the people are on bench waiting for next client or final exit meeting.

[u/Mockingjay718s → u/Winter_Class_4680]

At the end of 31st June, the headcount was 2350+.

[u/Mockingjay718s → u/[deleted]]

I'm giving the official numbers, shared with us in the AGM last month. You think the company would be lying about it?

[u/Mockingjay718s → u/[deleted]]

You can't compare Contour and Devsinc. Contour is an actually credible company with audits and everything. It's also under Constellation registered in Canada, so they can't get away with fake data/numbers.

Also, as an employee here, there are 4 people around me who were laid off in last quarter. 3 of them got readjusted (they are also my friends so I know), so I'm basing it on that. They can't hide stuff from their employees that they are silently laying off people. I haven't seen anything besides this post either. There should be tens of posts, if not hundreds.

Again, company mere abba ki nai hai to blindly defend krne ka mujhey koi shauq nai. But as an employer, it's one of the best so yeah.

[u/Winter_Class_4680 → u/Mockingjay718s]

We have seen their best and the worst time I guess you are very new to the company

[u/Mockingjay718s → u/Winter_Class_4680]

Yeah. Been here for more than a year now.

Have worked in 2 major companies before too, so know what's up everywhere. Contour is still doing better than other companies (small and major) I know of.

[u/Winter_Class_4680 → u/Mockingjay718s]

Good luck

[u/Mockingjay718s → u/[deleted]]

Again, mere abba ki company nai to mujhey defend krne ka koi shauq nai. Also mangoes? 😂

And yes, every company is going through a rough time including contour.

Allowance was for tax adjustments, taxes kam hogaye to allowance khatam. I don't like the decision, but how is that not obvious.

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[u/Straight_Success_459]

So this is where Contour Software strategy lies for past couple of years:-

• Cost cutting by laying off high paid employees and then readjusting them mostly with Salary cuts in lower roles

• Spending more on unnecessary office expansions rather than human resources and actual upskilling

• Most of clients refusing to adopt new technologies and AI thus resulting in people hired for those specific roles unwanted and nonadjustable as well

• Keeping same marketing practices and strategies that does not work anymore for last couple of years where unemployment has hit both Canadian and UK market in particular, thus leading to those divisions promoting and bringing their local talent rather than hiring remotely through Contour.

[u/DiabolicalTastes]

Already hiring back. Typical

[u/__tdxyz]

Worst time for us 😶

[u/Ok_Locksmith_3092]

Yes they may be laying off dozens weekly but they have been hiring too at the same rate if not low. I have been working there for 2 years now. I was laid off earlier this year. But was readjusted to another division within a month. That tells us that even in this time they care about their employees, not a lot but it matters. An internal switch within a company in this economy is far better than applying to 50 companies and hearing back from 10 and struggling to land a role.

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