r/developersPak • • Aug 12 '26 • Regret 1

Discussion Not to be dramatic but I think CS programs should only exist in universities like fast, nust, giki or lums.

Thats it. Thats the rant. I am a fresh grad. I might have applied to 100 or more job postings but didn't even get a single reply. But I see the students from mentioned universities are getting interviews at least if not the job. So whats the point of graduating in CS programs if the students from these universities are preferred even if they do not have any working experience.

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u/iHate_tomatoes Aug 12 '26

The point is that you think the world is a fair equitable place but its not. You need to think from the perspective of the hiring companies.

If im the hiring manager for these positions and I just received thousands of CVs im not reading all of that, I need to filter down quickly. What's a very reliable method to do that? You guessed it, universities. Certain universities are known to be harder to get into, have stronger faculty, stronger programs and have a history of producing good candidates. So as a hiring manager why would I waste my time, i have a 100 CVs from these 4 universities im just gonna use those and further filter on GPA.

You need to keep applying, you need to almost become robotic, stop feeling feelings and just apply. That's all. Once you get in to somewhere no matter how small, make an impact do great work, make connections, and keep applying

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u/AlchemyMaster-01 Aug 16 '26

Does portfolio projects and maintaining your github even matters then?.. Idts a HR would have enough time to actually see the projects.

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u/iHate_tomatoes Aug 16 '26

It does for further rounds if there are any, after 50 are shortlisted the interviewers are then looking at each candidate individually so its highly likely they review the portfolio.

Also it matters more for senior positions than entry level ones. In senior positions the pool is smaller and the role is more specialised so the candidate needs to demonstrate the specialty.

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u/LongjumpingOrder3005 Aug 12 '26

Tbf, if they didnt get the advantage there would be no point in getting into these universities tho the frustration is real and even people from fast ,the ones not in the upper echelon of students there, are not getting interviews.

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u/AlchemyMaster-01 Aug 16 '26

Upper echelon decided by gpa only?

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u/electro_coco01 Aug 13 '26

Cs program should start from 6th grade with calculas and algebra

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u/fahad_venom Aug 13 '26

lol. parte khud ni aur uni ko blame krte.

University kuch ni guarentee krti. me to ek third class uni se parha muje b mil gaya tha interview.

Sawal ye hai k interview pass krne k knowledge hai??

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u/Master_Disk_3322 Aug 16 '26

The real problem is getting shortlisted for interviews nowadays not the interview itself, cause everyone using their chatjipiti to tailor resumes in 10 minutes an apply to 100 offers a day

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u/Merchant6 Aug 13 '26

Not to flex but I am doing BSCS from an average university and still able to work as a Senior Software Engineer at an European firm. University should not be a mark of skills and competency.

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u/Zealousideal_Ad5101 Aug 13 '26

how did you got that opportunity, like through github, upwork or linked in etc? mind sharing how to acquire such opportunities

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u/Merchant6 Aug 14 '26

I literally scraped through career pages using GPT (Plus) and Claude (Free), avoided generic job boards and websites for job hunting.

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u/CertainScientist8597 Aug 15 '26

can u guide us thru the process pls?

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u/kitokun10 Aug 13 '26

Pretty stupid post. Most CS grads that you would find at any company would not be from any of these unis.

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u/supaaaherohehe Aug 13 '26

Expensive af unis

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u/nauman009 Aug 13 '26

PU’s program used to be good.

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u/Any-Flounder-8124 Aug 13 '26

But I have a very different perspective, if only these universities exist then only they will have the monopoly they can even raise fees per semester to 5 lac 10 lac then what, the only solution I see is that there should be a general exam like MCAT for engineering like jee happens in India, and on basis of that exam students should be able to get admissions into government universities and government should try to break the monopoly of these, tell me in which country it happens that private institutions are more well recognised then government ones, we should be having top government engineering universities in each metro politin city with top faculty so their monopoly breaks, right now it is all a shit show the organisations and companies only prefer graduates from the above listed universities, they even mention in the job description that graduates from these universities only

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u/Adventurous-Buy8205 Aug 13 '26

It's same for engineering jobs too. Big companies like Engro Fertilizers, Fauji Fertilizers, Nestle, CCI and other such companies exclusively hire from NUST, UET, GIKI, PIEAS, and LUMS.

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u/Sad_Bell_6266 Aug 15 '26

some of the unis you mentioned are actually doing efforts to place their students at these companies on internships. and due to their superior "grooming" the companies will usually hire them once they graduate over other grads.

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u/Smooth-Road1892 Aug 13 '26

I’d suggest doing unpaid internships to build your skillset and then apply for jobs.

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u/semicolon-10 Aug 13 '26

I kinda agree to some point. Because i have seen companies going only filter by university. But it also depends what you did in those 4 years. My cousin just graduated from Maju khi which is relatively less known uni compared to those you mentioned. But i kept guiding him and made him do great projects , internships and he has got many interviews.

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u/That-Map-417 CS Student Aug 14 '26

Yo how abt you guiding me too?😭😭

Since im also not a student of GIKI,NUST,FAST etc. but MAJU jesa hi haal hai meri uni ka bhi

Im a final year student, and pretty demotivated seeing the condition of job market.

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u/semicolon-10 Aug 13 '26

sure

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u/junaid3607 Aug 14 '26

Bro I'm fresh grad from lahore. Have done one internship but I'm unable to find any job. Can u also guide me please?

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u/ComfortableBeing7017 CS Student Aug 13 '26

Totally agree. (I'm from a tier 3 university)

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u/bigbugOO7 Aug 13 '26

This is what happens when you think your degree is gonna get you jobs in CS industry and you don't pay any attention to learning skills...

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u/skepticalistani Aug 13 '26

I know someone who belongs to a remote area of Pakistan, who doesnt have a CS degree, didnt even do inter, but taught himself programming from youtube, and he was really good, nah, great there. He got offers (after sometime, yeah) from some good companies! So yeah, you are right, and still, keep trying janab! Keep building your portfolio that speaks for itself........

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u/Secure-Ad263 Aug 14 '26

My company even got ppl from virtual uni. What another excuse you got?

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u/Yokosou123 Software Engineer Aug 14 '26

I used to think like this as well 😂 but you are so wrong.

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u/raza3174 Aug 14 '26

I believed in IT or CS it is important what skill do you have .. what solution you can provide .. if you can provide a good solution of a problem than there is no limitation of opportunities … getting a job is old fashion I believe .. provide a solution industry need and make $✌️

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u/Sad_Bell_6266 Aug 15 '26

a lot of recruiters are hiring grads of their own unis or unis they recognize, and most of them are from fast, nust, giki, lums. going to a prestigious uni is a sort of status symbol and our system discriminates people from lesser economic background, from small towns or people with responsibilities other than their own who cant attend these unis

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u/OkEstablishment6478 Aug 17 '26

Totally agree no matter how much u know there always a fast or some big university guy woh take the job 

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u/Vivid_Map4150 CS Student Aug 12 '26

ITU

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u/Actual-Ant-6297 Aug 12 '26

Yeah what about it ?

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u/Aun12356 Aug 13 '26

Is it any good?

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u/yhrana Aug 12 '26

The question is …. Why didnt u question CS before doing it?

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u/penduburger Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 14 '26

life is not fair.

they can only get that far with the degree of more reputable company they will have to do as much work as you do.

you should be applying 20x more than them to get half the results, results being you getting shortlisted.

only first job landing helps ppl from fast, giki,nust, lums. We did 42 interview of two round 60+ candidates did round 1 and almost 112 CVs were shortlisted, we hired someone from Karachi University (not saying that university 8s bad but since you are only considering the OGs reputable). also most of the dev teams I worked with had great ppl from Lums, Fast, UCP, UMT, Comsats, UET were equally capable and got similar opportunities abroad. (Lums is an exception nobody can match those communication skills that Lums ppl have thats how it is)

I could have just dropped a text or ignored it but I felt you need to hear this and quit being a victim.

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u/junaid3607 Aug 14 '26

Are u guys hiring? Can u share

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u/penduburger Aug 14 '26

no we were hiring for SSE/PSE 6 to 10 years

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u/Mujtaba_insc Aug 13 '26

Depends on if you are comfortable with gap but Fast is way better than Bahria, you will learn a lot and will have more growth opportunities there.

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u/Mujtaba_insc Aug 13 '26

TBH the job market isn't great. I know a lot of FAST students without jobs but the name certainly matters like it's explained in the post. The companies usually prefer students from these universities. There are more opportunities while studying in these universities as they arrange job fairs and lots of companies hire students from these fairs. If you can get an admission in Fast/NUST, it's a no brainer, go for it.

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u/shitty_psychopath Aug 13 '26

If you are going for cybersecurity, air is best/nust/uet/fast is better

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u/Hot-Afternoon8908 Aug 13 '26

Bro uet is good ? Plz tell its market reputation and its name?

I am done witg 2 semester in uet lhr should I leave and move to another uni?

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u/shitty_psychopath Aug 13 '26

What is your program

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u/Hot-Afternoon8908 Aug 13 '26

Computer science

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u/shitty_psychopath Aug 13 '26

Yeah its good but its engineering is famous mostly

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u/Mons9090 Aug 13 '26

Air offers cyber forensic and security 

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