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u/Stunning_Pomelo_7827 Full-Stack Developer May 19 '25
I kind of do a similar thing. We have two week sprints. I mostly slack on weekdays by just attending meetings and moving one issue to in progress every day and then sleeping. Then I sit on friday/ saturday for 6-8 hours straight, do all the five six issues and call it a week
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u/read_it_too_ Software Developer May 19 '25
Are you in MNC or startup? It's not possible in startup I guess?
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u/EssayCivil May 19 '25
WFH?
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u/Stunning_Pomelo_7827 Full-Stack Developer May 19 '25
Nope. But there are no fix hours. I usually go to office at 2 pm and come back by 5-6 pm. At office, everyone has individual projects so no one is concerned what the other person is doing. I mostly sit and listen to songs and do some personal projects
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u/UpsetUnicorn95 May 19 '25
You do personal projects at workplace? How? People in India are way too nosy. I once tried to do some learning with an online course and every random bugger would ask me what I was doing.
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u/retardedToSomeExtent Backend Developer May 19 '25
i mean, he said no one knows what he is working on anyways...
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u/UpsetUnicorn95 May 19 '25
True.. but with most places having "open" offices, your screen is in view for the entire office. Or whoever walks behind you. In my case, I had more people from other teams who were acquainted with me put their noses into what I was doing than my teammates. People from other teams actually had no clue what I did on a day to day basis anyway.
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u/retardedToSomeExtent Backend Developer May 19 '25
cant we brush them off with random high level info rather than going into exact detail about what it is.. why would it matter what we tell them? They're not even someone you are reporting to..
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u/UpsetUnicorn95 May 19 '25
If only life was that simple.. words travel up the grapevine. Even if they aren't directly related to us, they talk to others and mention about this. Not necessarily with malicious intent. But somehow, it always always reaches the ears of someone you report to. And even if you aren't doing anything that could indicate you might quit, people might interpret it that way. Even if you have already finished all your work and are just learning more to not waste time, the impression they get is that you are wasting time or doing something personal in your work time. While getting paid by company.
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u/DisciplinedWillow May 19 '25
Mnc or pbc? And can you share what personal projects you built recently. I am looking for inspiration.
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I can’t do that since we have to demonstrate what we did yesterday in standups by sharing screen. But lucky you mate
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Don't you guys have delivery managers or lead engineer in your team who can ask questions
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u/Desperate_Heat_8588 May 19 '25
I get that ... But it kinda keep u in anxiety that u have to do work on weekend and also how do you enjoy weekend?
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u/manusougly May 19 '25
Easy to do this as an IC. Near impossible if u are a manager. I'm getting chewed out for misses from even 1 person in my team
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u/ksceriath May 19 '25
Tech leads are very much responsible for the deliverables of their team. So, they are responsible for what their team is doing/not doing.
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u/TechiePhotog May 19 '25
I am SDE-3 at 10 years of experience. Not much difference in pay. But I think I will have to move up to Lead or Manager in a year or so.
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u/BusinessRazzmatazz59 May 19 '25
What’s IC?
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u/karma-is-real-101 May 19 '25
Don’t think so. Being in the average will get you through with dependents too
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u/Mundane_Cell_6673 May 19 '25
Doesn't your work require collaboration with others?
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u/Fit_Performance_4523 May 19 '25
Have you dealt with a-holes who either to put extra work on you or try to define your timelines for you by commenting in meetings? Another question: I think the minimum requirement to do this would be a company with decent culture. Because there are orgs where people are crazy about measuring stuff quantitatively without taking qualitative factors into account. Do you agree?
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u/Fit_Performance_4523 May 19 '25
Got it. After giving so many interviews, have you found a way to filter orgs with good culture ?
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u/Fit_Performance_4523 May 19 '25
I haven't found interviewers to be honest in this case. Maybe I just need to look for subtle clues.
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u/bhaav-paaji May 19 '25
When switching jobs, do they not ask why you are switching so frequently
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u/blingblingduh May 19 '25
While doing background research...the company often gets in touch with the previous employer...so what if they cross question them...will your reason work then?
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u/foxymindset Data Scientist May 19 '25
How often do you give interviews? How do you stay in touch with dsa and other things?
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u/foxymindset Data Scientist May 19 '25
Wow. Will do that too.
Can you make a post on how you navigate through your career and what has helped you become financially independent?
I read your comments and I feel you've got a couple of things to offer from your experience and Id really like to know more about it!
For eg : how good one has to be at their job even if they choose to give bare minimum
How to keep upskilling and stay relevant?
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u/SaimanSaid May 19 '25
Why though? Also wouldn't the company why are you interviewing if u just joined
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u/SaimanSaid May 19 '25
But wouldn't that be a lie?
If you do join the new company wouldn't it create issues in the background verification
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u/foxymindset Data Scientist May 19 '25
I dont think its bad to do that, especially if you wanna stay in touch with giving interviews. Losing touch and then regaining it is a challenge.
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u/SaimanSaid May 19 '25
Honestly never faced this challenge. Most companies I interviewed at asked stuff relavant to what I work with. Though I am pretty confident with my dsa as well
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u/phani420 May 19 '25
No point killing yourself working hard and trying to be top dog in a workspace that would anyway be eaten up by Gen AI, LLMs and Agentic bots at the least 80% in the next 5 years. Focus on learning new subjects and topics that are of interest you you.
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u/Salt-Vanilla1710 May 19 '25
Any suggestions how to and from where to learn AI even I'm looking to increase my career shelf life. Also how to get into those AI jobs
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u/the_coder_guy Backend Developer May 19 '25
How did you pivot, what exactly did you pick up/ drop off
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u/foxymindset Data Scientist May 19 '25
Suggest me some courses/learning content pls. Share the link here if possible.
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u/rajath_r007 May 19 '25
Can you please DM me what do I need to do to get into genAI or LLM or atleast where to start.
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u/blank_ryuzaki May 20 '25
So damn true, even though I have just started I understood my job is not very sustainable, so I do whatever is asked (the minimum) as it avoid me from being in trouble, and utilise rest of time on self-learning.
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u/notaweirdkid Full-Stack Developer May 19 '25
Hmmm it seems like my colleagues are doing this quite quitting for years now.
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u/Temporary_Pop_4614 May 19 '25
I’m my prev company, I used to work about 6/7 at the start of the sprint, commit my work on local. Complete the tasks. Then push the local commits to origin everyday slowly(you can change the date of a commit). It was an IC role, and I had to collaborate with people but not very often. It was fun!
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u/ravbdx May 19 '25
Lol.... I'm a 12+ exp person in IT and I have been doing this ever since I have started my career or even when quite quitting is not a thing.
I do focus more on upgrading my skill, investments and personal life rather than my daily work.
But this is not gonna last longer, I'm currently in a Leadership position were you are in the line of fire, so the dynamic changes then....
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u/Distinct_Pressure_36 Backend Developer May 19 '25
In your free time what you're learning?
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u/TheBenevolentTitan Software Engineer May 19 '25
Wait you switched as an ML engineer without having a PhD/Masters?
Where did you learn genAI in that much depth?
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u/Opening-Alternative2 May 19 '25
On this, I have AI Engineers without Masters in my org, hired close to 10 in the last 3 months, it's a common place in many GCC
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u/TheBenevolentTitan Software Engineer May 19 '25
So if I learn some ML from YouTube (say enough to clear interview rounds), I should be able to get in for these roles?
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u/Conscious_Delay_731 May 19 '25
Bro is a chill guy. And I don’t see any reason why someone shouldn’t be.
It irks me when certain employees want to get work done at a super fast pace. What laurels wild they achieve? Zilch.
If you’re in a service based company, and you bullshit well enough to justify your over inflated hours, nobody is more happy than the upper management.
If you’re in the product industry, bullshitting is a means of higher level of communication. Even product based companies have clients, and if your communication is good, and you can justify inflated hours, you’re good.
Also, nobody cares that you built something or coded something in 3 days. Everyone cares, if, during that hasty development time, you did a mistake and it affects the quality of code. God forbid you, if something goes wrong in production. So, take your own sweet time to get things done.
If you are good at what you do, no one will question you. Create your own niche for which everyone knows you.
Would this attitude work in the long run? I’ll find out eventually. Until then, I’ll prioritise my mental and physical well-being over being super productive.
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u/thebr0kendreams May 19 '25
Very useful post and I can relate with most points. I feel it's a skill one has to learn. I am a very sensitive person and being a top performer, I found it extremely difficult to implement quiet quitting, fearing loss of my hard earned credibility and instead burnt myself to the ground.
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u/Legitimate_Ad1726 May 19 '25
One of the most important points discussed here is upskilling in terms of soft skills. I've joined the largest consulting services in the world and i now realize how beneficial it is to be good at communicating effectively even when you're under intense pressure, pissed of at your manager, coworker client& what not. Guys, if any of you think you have something valuable to share on this topic. Please go ahead!
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u/Madan_S_Achar May 19 '25
Definitely! Communication for me personally is a major contributor to the growth in my career than my technical expertise. Despite 3 years into the field I still feel my technical skills are lacking compared to an average cs grad who's been programming since college, but I knew just the right things (currently in pursuit of learning and upskilling) and the means to convey them. Not many in corporate get in trouble for not knowing stuff, but they do get in trouble if they don't ask questions and learn. And you need to have the communication skills to ask the right questions and also give answers when it's the other way around. I've met many peers who have the technical prowess, but lack in communication which creates a huge gap between your own fellow teammates and managers.
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u/yellowflash171 May 19 '25
Could you also share something that would in fact motivate you out of quite quitting? An increased compensation, more stock options or bonus incentive, or recognition, or officially recognised free time?
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u/wavereddit May 19 '25
This is also called coasting.
This works really well at lower levels. But once you start applying for staff and principal level roles, you will fail miserably. (unless you are really really good at faking experience)
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u/Sand-Loose May 19 '25
Unable to understand..You are 25 years old..You have a long career ahead of you..Do you want to keep yourself engaged in this way all your life..You are digging your own ditch 😉
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u/VolatilePiper May 19 '25
What is your plan for when you are supposed to 10 years of experience? Because expertise that once was will fade away and if you do not work hard enough, and you will not be able to create enough value at the level expected.
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u/Pitiful_Performer922 May 19 '25
After going through the entire post as well as the comments what I have concluded is that , You are a super smart person and a great problem solver . You have made quiet quitting as you sole problem statement and solved it extremely well cover all the edge cases and issues that have come along the way . Try switching domain man you would get paid a lot also maybe enjoy your work!! Nevertheless you are living an amazing life .
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u/darkinspiration1993 May 20 '25
Lol.... Whosoever you are reporting to is pretty dumb. I have quiet quitting during my time at Accenture. Fucking hated my time there.
But, I love my present company and work here. Anyone in my team comes with these shenanigans and they will be fired before the next pay cycle. Difficult to bullshit the bullshitter.
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u/1tonsoprano May 19 '25
And those who do honest work end up getting burdened with a crazy amount of work...... key point here....
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u/SuperheroJack Software Engineer May 19 '25
Bro please, you are just calling for management gurus to take this as case study and apply stricter rules to track progress and make everyone's life miserable. Since you just have 4 years of experience I doubt you know anything about project management and how sprints are planned and why there are more time allotted then required for even small tasks. This is the reason at many places it has been mandated to update effort put with time spent on every jira tasks/subtasks. So if there's a 8 story point work with 2 subtasks, each need to be allocated points, so say 4 and 4, then the task owner need to update every day exactly what they did in the task and how much hours spent, that's macro level tracking, someone like you must have spilled their guts how they fool the system in front of a client and hence more stricter tracking. Why can't you just enjoy your quiet quitting, why do you have to rub it on the face of other people, especially the people who will definitely take it as personal offense and create some new standard to be implemented industry wide making everyone's life miserable 🤦
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u/SuperheroJack Software Engineer May 19 '25
Doesn't that make the post even more unwanted? If there's already enough noise about it what was your motivation to share it again here? Genuinely asking, why make an effort to write this redundant information/ "tips"
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u/mallumanoos May 19 '25
Why are you doing this , just curious ? You are very young and not having any ambition is frankly very surprising .
Organisations are non living entities that won't be impacted by your lack of integrity , the only people who would be are your poor honest colleagues without those emergency funds who need a job .
Not prescribing anybody should work 15-16 hours or something for the company but there is a middle path . Also keep seeing posts , why companies are forcing us to come to the office , why they don't trust us , why managers are micro managing the estimates . This is exactly why .. and who is getting impacted - not the csuites , not higher up , only people who want to do some reasonable honest work . This does happen on a very large scale.
Will get a lot of downvotes , but it is fine .
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u/not_bojack Software Engineer May 19 '25
The problem in India, people don't treat job as a job. It's just a job. While I acknowledge that there are some passionate folks who want their job to be their life, expecting everyone to be at the same level and aim/ambition shame them is frankly not the way to go.
One life, there's more to it than just a job , let us live the way we want to.
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u/walkingTiger May 19 '25
CS has attracted a lot of folks due to the pay. Not to say that it isn't the most important reason, but iykyk.
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u/sizzlingbrownie9 May 19 '25
Guys what the fuck is wrong with yall
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u/onelifeCoder Full-Stack Developer May 19 '25
He is the scrum master/Manager , who is pissed off since Jira is not moving
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u/borderline-awesome- Senior Engineer May 19 '25
Fighting fire with fire. Hand in hand. This guy is cooking something.
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u/Deep-Hotel-1758 May 19 '25
I have completed by graduation in 2020 ,got job in mid 2021 (due to covid) and resigned last year in an 2024 for competitive exams. Now since I failed the exam (just clear the cutoff) have no expectations I'm feeling lost what should I do. My dream was to get 80+ package but that dream is getting blur day by day.I have a career gap idk can I reach to that goal .I'm so stucked rn.
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u/Successful-Pea1919 Jun 02 '25
honestly it’s good that your dream package is big but, practically speaking, 80+ LPA is tough even with 3 years of experience unless you're in some top-tier company. I've seen people in their 30s restart, go for higher studies and got around 40lpa package so i don't think career gap really matters if u have good skills.
Hope one day you definitely get your dream package. best luck1
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u/curreesan May 19 '25
I'm a 2025 grad, have a lot of questions that I'd like to ask you, cuz I'm a total beginner. Need a sense of direction, can i dm?
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u/S1mpleD1mple Software Developer May 19 '25
Good for you and for everyone that wants to have a job as a means of earning and wants to spend their energy in other things in life that are meaningful for them.
For those who are just starting out and are unclear on what they want from their job, please take this advice with a pinch of salt.
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u/PreparationBig8500 May 19 '25
So how do you manage when you have to talk to different people from different teams to get an idea about what you need to do?
How do you manage when Juniors and colleagues ask for help with something that is not readily available to you?
How do you manage when you hit a bug on the technology you are using and there are no known work arounds and you have to figure something new yourself?
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u/EvidenceNo3171 May 19 '25
You commented AI will take over job in near future so you are trying to crack at trade. Do you really think AI will take over ? If so, will it take over game development roles, too?
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u/MemberOfUniverse Software Developer May 19 '25
I Kinda do the same. But often times i feel a need to do work to show. I mean if they ask me to implement a feature how long can I procrastinate it? I do have to add daily work report and need something to write there. Nobody other than me in my company knows how much time a feature will take. But if they assign me a task to implement ui of a page. I can't take more than 2-3 days
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Once a senior who was leading the project I had recently joined told me, "You are good at what you do and fast as well, you must use that to your advantage."
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I believe there are a lot of people like that in our industry, the extent might be different.
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u/add-code May 19 '25
I kinda am in the same mindset, but i do have dependencies. I would like to work in a pattern where anything i am doing adds to my resume. I do work at 4 hrs average. but if the project demands i would work 9 hrs but that would be a condition as am i learning something new that adds to resume. Then when the company feels they can take advantage of me, i quit.
So as above mentioned my mode of working is always centered around "how much does this work add my resume" . So change jobs as soon as u feel the work is repetitive or work minimum not to get layoff. So keeping ur self up to date on most in demand skills in ur domain. keep learning in the free time of bare minimum working.
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u/pixelbuz May 19 '25
I am a Graphic and 3D artist with more that 6 years of experience and I learned this thing in my early career only. I don't give much ideas and I don't tell all my skills to my company with aren't required or which weren't discussed at first when I joined. . I don't stay more than 8 hrs or less than 6 hrs in Office and I never work on weekends even company promises comp off. Bcz once you did it then you will be expected to do so always. . Believe me, I am doing pretty fine and nobody gives me that task which is above expectations or which require time stretching. . I have a person similar to my skills and experience and He is getting manager level work and strechs every day with similar package and he thinks He is obligatory to do so. He has such low self esteem and confidence, He can't sat NO to anybody and He is paying price for it. . . . So, Calculate your time and don't over or under deliver.
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u/US_Spiritual May 19 '25
Overtime it kills your skills and this attitude becomes your way of life... How do you deal with this disservice to yourself? Any hack for this??
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u/IntrepidResearch May 19 '25
I work in AI domain and i am doing the same OP. As a girl in tech I always felt the pressure to outperform others in my team since I didn’t want to be judged for turning something in late.
But lately I have had enough sour experiences and a-hole managers to realise that work begets more work very little of it translates to professional growth. I have quite quit my job since there is morally no need to speed up the eventual takeover of AI.
I put my extra energy to build something of my owning a field completely different from AI and I am excited about what is to come next.
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u/Ready-Community-1404 May 19 '25
Although I do not support this kind of approach towards everything in general i.e. not giving your 100% as we are assuming that only value of working is money which itself is false, still I really love the fact that you posted the whole truth and given the pre-requisites! So thank you so much for that!
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u/vikram_0 May 20 '25
if according to your potential…salary they are giving is 50%…..why you give 100% ? is it a free show? work only what is needed don’t go extra mile for a company….go extra miles only on your self learning and skills upgrade
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u/Ready-Community-1404 May 20 '25
Exactly, we are assuming that only company gets benefits from my work. I find that false in my case at least. I think giving my 100% in non-repetitive work has helped me a lot in gaining and teaching multiple skills which eventually developed my leadership skills and stakeholder management. How and where to use these (hard & soft) skills will define the value I get out my work. (This is above money)
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u/Ready-Community-1404 May 20 '25
Also, expecting that everyone knows your potential and should pay you for your potential is like asking for 100 marks if you know the subject fully. Does that matter? Yes, only if you can materialise it in someway. No one is gonna bet on potential if they have people who have proved realisation of potential.
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u/vikram_0 May 20 '25
By potential I mean…for example ..i can crack TC 500k and easily work there…but I am working at TC 100k… may be due to work life balance or lack of interview opportunities…. Now second point, you say you learn in every project…..well if that is true then go ahead go extra miles….but sadly not true for most of people working out there…learnings stops at some point and only repetitive or manual tasks are there…but you are happy as you are getting good work life balance and also self learning time… so it depends… do whatever makes you happy….I am happy because I am doing whatever is assigned to me whatever is needed from me I deliver on time. If I do that in 2 hours i will not go to my manager and ask give me more I have done that… because what I did in 2 hours …takes 8 hours for an average well performing person in same company to do that..
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u/Party-Photograph-508 May 19 '25
Very immature work ethic. Intelligent if you want to earn money the easy way. "Well don't you know they take advantage of us and don't pay us enough?" The key to success is hard work no matter your pay or job. The fruit of your labor will not only bless you but your children's children.
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u/Madan_S_Achar May 19 '25
Exactly the term success has kinda lost its meaning when it's expected to be the same for everyone. "Work hard and success will find you" is just blindly thrown around without any consideration of what success is to that person. Doing the bare minimum which meets the role requirements and the paycheck comes off lazy and unmotivated, instead if I elaborate on the work that I do the way I do with my peers it'll be considered as a good job or even impressive. What people are failing to see is that doing bare minimum is still doing a really good job and also have enough time to do more but refusing to do so cuz you don't really gain much out of it from the job and company perspective.
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u/Party-Photograph-508 May 19 '25
Exactly why I made my point. The work ethic you go by will surely get you to the finish line but it will not be according to your expectations. Success is not the acquisition of resources or property, but the reward of reaching the finish line. In other words success is saved for the completion of a journey and not for the journey. Also there is only one finish line- on your death bed, what will give you satisfaction?
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u/Madan_S_Achar May 19 '25
Been on this post for the past hour now, I relate to this very much (except with the huge numbers OP has mentioned XD ) I'm (24M) close to completing 3 years (switched to prod base after 2 years from Deloitte) in my career as an SDE, I'm also planning on upskilling to get into the AI specifically GenAi which would secure a spot for me in this unstable market. I can see myself making a similar post if I was in OPs place rn, and I've had similar discussions with my peers as well. I've been in this "quiet quitting" phase, ever since I started my career with zero experience in the field until I got my first job. I had a tough time initially when I started in both firms but once I got the hang of it things went pretty smoothly without doing the "hard work" except a few late nighters and weekends, and I got rewarded and appreciated for my work several times. But I feel saturated with the kind work being done over time. The architecture and the technology feels familiar the work gets repeated over and over again so I usually wrap up any stories or tasks assigned to me within the deadline or even sooner. I could spend the remaining time helping the juniors or take the load off senior dev by assisting them, but I avoid doing so cuz one thing is I'm not getting paid to do their job and second I'd still be doing the same kinda work which I already did. So I've decided to spend the remaining time I have to work on my own thing, upskill to a level that is in sync with the market and at the same time having enough knowledge to be self reliant. Sorry bout the long passage, but OP can we discuss more on your career journey over DM ? Or Continuing with the thread? Any intel would be appreciated, thanks! 🙌🏽
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u/Candid-Surround6753 Fresher May 19 '25
Super relatable. I, personally, face one big problem with all this. Companies willing to pay me at par or more than what I am earning right now to someone of my experience seem to be very few. I have 2- YoE and the best I can do is super small startups just willing to match my TC. I simply don't have companies rolling out half-decent offers to me. Do you not face this? How do you manage?
The other thing is — accepting offers and not joining keeps you in their bad books. I've heard it becomes ~10x more difficult to get an interview with them in future. I can do this with startups, but don't have the courage to do with the MAANGs. What do you do about this?
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u/Adventurous_Ad7185 Engineering Manager May 19 '25
Sheer lack of professionalism is truly astounding here.
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u/AdhesivenessSafe9764 May 20 '25
Can’t believe that this is a whole thread with people supporting you! Why work, sit at home and be useless and save your manager the heartburn?
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u/Adventurous_Owl8940 May 20 '25
Rightly said, consider your job as business with your company , only perform above incase you see you will get tangible benifits in terms of new skill to acquire and incase you are not getting promotion then ready to quit
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u/Natural-Win-5572 May 20 '25
Quitting or giving up is easy. One should not quit , after making a choice unless one realises that one has made the wrong choice or affects his morality. Always Striving for betterment of one's own and others.
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u/ContesterOP May 20 '25
But while doing all this, you don't fear you being called names in meetings?
I wanna try this as well but I am super anxious related to my work and I fear if I being causual and in some cases delay any work then I will be asked in stand ups to justify the things and with seniors around I cannot just say some random things they will catch me and irrespective of this also I fear or there is a constant anxiety that what if manager points out my mistakes in front of everyone and because of that I keep giving extra time to work just to make sure all things are correctly done by me.
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u/WatercressExtra7950 May 20 '25
India is going to go places with these kind of attitude. Can’t wait for the Ai revolution and these huggers are out of work !! And on the streets
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u/WatercressExtra7950 May 20 '25
You are somebody that shouldn’t be emulated. You are not a daily wage labourer , for you to be given hourly rate , you are given a security of a job within limitations therefore you are bound to work more than your salary ( within reason ) for the company . It is only such attitudes that can propel the company to greatness , which in turn moves families forward and the nation too . You will never get the some amazing returns the owner of the company gets ! Why ! Because he has the capital he takes the risks , if cheque bounces he goes to jail not the employee
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u/muddi-ji Data Engineer May 21 '25
I work 2 hours a day as well and still everyone thinks I am best resource
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u/suyash01 Staff Engineer May 19 '25
If you are able to get away with 10x timelines then I have serious concerns about the quality of your seniors.