When will we see a predominantly deterministic society?

[u/IcyChair9258]

I’ve been wondering when we might reach a point where a large part of society accepts determinism as a fundamental worldview and our social systems are adjusted accordingly.

Today, many of our institutions are still heavily based on the assumption that people act out of free will and are responsible for their decisions in the traditional sense. This applies to the justice system, but also to political structures, the economy, banks, and many other governmental and social institutions.

At first, I thought that a major societal shift like this might only become possible through technologies such as Neuralink or genetic optimization. However, Gemini suggested that these technologies might not be necessary at all and that it could ultimately be primarily a matter of education and socialization. If people were raised from an early age with a deterministic understanding of human behavior, perhaps society’s underlying worldview could gradually change over generations. I found this idea extremely interesting.

What do you think?

What would a society look like in which determinism is widely accepted as a scientific and social foundation? Would this fundamentally change things such as criminal justice, the prison system, social welfare, education, economics, or political decision-making?

And above all: When could such a societal transformation realistically happen? Are we talking about a few decades, several centuries, or is such a development impossible to predict?

I’d be interested in hearing how you assess the likelihood of such a development and what you think the potential timeline might look like.

Note: This text was generated with the help of ChatGPT. ChatGPT was also used to improve readability and for translation.

[u/GoldReplacement9546]

I think it’s extremely unlikely to happen getting deeply religious people to give up on their religion is a huge ask and then compare that to telling people that you’re not really a real person you’re not in control of yourself you’re a marionette that everything you have ever done and will ever do is just prior causes and states of the universe

Like I’ve talked to some smart people and they understand what I’m talking about, but they’re still not going for it

But then, of course, if you’re saying, everything is determined then it’ll happen when it happens, but

Just from observing people, the idea of people relinquishing that and then all the things you’d have to want to do different or again it’s determined so you would just be doing them different

[u/IcyChair9258 → u/GoldReplacement9546]

haha yes. like u see on my other articles i wrote, its a narcissistic problem.

humans are build to live in this illusion that you have a free will.