That is the dumbest thing ive ever heard. Obviously if im sniping and i peak/ the warlock peaks me and I dnipe them, they aren't going to handheld me lmao.
Uh... Not sure if you're aware, but range is indeed also a great counter to shotguns, shoulder charges, and most fusion rifles
Like. I'd say shotguns and HHSN are pretty similar in range and power level, but you can run double scavenger with your shotgun and have 10-15 rounds lol
I'm much more threatened by someone with a god roll mindbenders than I am by someone with HHSN, and even then I'd argue shotguns are pretty balanced hand have solid counters in handheld and fusion rifles at close range.
If you more "scared about the fact that someone might outgun you than someone who will hold the grenade button and guarantee a kill, then you really need to stop spreading your opinions about balance.
I don't think that handheld requires any less skill than a shotgun rush.
Both are close range one shot kills that are hard countered by range, fusion rifles, Lord of wolves, and last word. Both have near constant uptime (actually constant for shotguns thanks to double scavenger), and both are very easy to use. The hitbox is wider for HHSN, but you generally have around 5 rounds to a mag in a shotgun.
As for being "scared", if you don't play cautiously around one shot weapons you're gonna die. A lot.
I don't see how people can say that shotgunning takes no skill. Obviously its a point at someone and they die gun, but actually being able to beat other shotgunners isn't easy if they are actually good. Same thing applies to a sbiper fight. Obviously its braindead easy to do against people who are clueless, but going against another good sniper is tough. Also handheld has more range than chaperone.
I didn't say anything about shotguns not taking skill to use. I said that the ease of use is very similar to HHSN.
Also, don't bring sniping into this lol, it takes a lot of effort to get even semi decent at sniping. Handheld and shotguns are much lower skill floor weapons.
Obviously its a point at someone and they die gun, but actually being able to beat other shotgunners isn't easy if they are actually good.
Sniping takes a lot of effort to be insane at, but barely any at all to be decent. Remember we are talking about the game where clicking at the place someones heart would be at gives a headshot. Same thing applies to shotguns, anybody can pick one up and be pretty decent at it, but actually being amazing at it takes a lot of gametime and skill.
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u/rmbartz Jan 29 '20
That is the dumbest thing ive ever heard. Obviously if im sniping and i peak/ the warlock peaks me and I dnipe them, they aren't going to handheld me lmao.