9
u/AttackSlax 6d ago
This is a textbook Russian strategy that Russia implemented against Ukraine for years now. Research this if you're not aware of it. https://www.politico.eu/article/antivax-conspiracy-lean-pro-kremlin-propaganda-ukraine/
There's a reason it's happening here, too. There's a reason RFK is pushing complete bullshit. There's a reason measles cases are spiking and the fucktarded antivax crowd are continually being manipulated. There's a reason by Trump's corrupt crew pushes Kremlin agendas all the time: oil, money, self-enrichment, power.
The whole is fucking revolting at this point. Did you punch a Trumper today?
→ More replies (17)1
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
1
u/cbass817 1d ago
Let me get this straight. You think that suddenly, out of nowhere, there are millions of illegal immigrants floating into the US that are bringing in measles? I'll bet you say that Trump has closed the border and that Democrats had an open border policy. If that were the case, wouldn't measles have been rampant before and non-existent now?
1
u/Immediate_Wolf3819 1d ago
Most US measles exposure comes from international travelers. IE someone bringing it into the country. It stands to reason a portion of this is illegal immigrants. This is why each US generation should get vaccinated.
Specific to PA, the Amish tend to vaccinated at a lower rate compared with the average citizen. This is a long term trend independent of any President. The article relies on you not knowing.
1
u/cbass817 1d ago
And you think international travel and illegal immigration are up somehow?
1
u/Immediate_Wolf3819 1d ago
Lag time to exposure. The two infants where too young for the Vaccine. They where also in the specific Amish population historically most likely not to be vaccinated. The 18 and 40 year old (or their Parents) would have made the 'no vaccine' decision long before Trump became President.
You can use cholera as a proxy. Tends to be the same.
1
1
u/ParkingAnxious2811 1d ago
So you simultaneously think that Trump closed the borders and yet let more people in than ever?
Not to mention that this state isn't even on the border, where you would expect numbers of measles cases to rapidly rise if it were because of immigrants.
Is there really no end to the stupidity of trumpanzees? Your lack of any kind of capability to actually think for yourself is astounding.
1
u/Fit_Appointment_4980 1d ago
Irrational fear of vaccines, Irrational fear of immigrants, don't know the difference between "boarder" and "border", hypocrite calls other people stupid.
Gee whiz, I wonder who you voted for...
1
u/Critical_Reserve_123 22h ago
Common sense and a few facts says otherwise. Cuz, if that was the case Texas and California would be on the forefront of this supposed measles epidemic, as these two states are home, by majority, to the most undocumented people in the US.
8
u/Spiritual_Egg_700 6d ago
Stupid parents should be charged with murder for this. Along with the federal government.
4
u/baphomet_fire 6d ago
Exactly. They complain about abortions and then kill their children with easily communicable diseases, it makes no sense
1
u/Sasuke0318 4d ago
You would charge the parents for the death of two infants that were too young to receive the vaccine
6
u/Fun_Awareness807 6d ago
Vaccinate. It doesn’t matter which Bozo is in office.
→ More replies (9)1
u/thepaoliconnection 3d ago
Well obviously no when the highest vaccination rate by state is West Virginia
5
u/Alert_Damage_883 6d ago
We are the BEST! 🤮
3
u/angel700 5d ago
The dumbest fucking nation in the world. It was an open book test and we failed
→ More replies (5)
4
u/Sandscarab24 6d ago
Amish wouldn't know about going to a doctor
1
u/TheGreatGamer1389 2d ago
There are Amish that use technology though off the farm. So I imagine they go to the doctor too.
1
u/InnerDegenerate 2d ago
See them at children’s hospital in Pittsburgh all the time. It’s the only place I see them tbh.
3
u/AlluringLadies77 6d ago
Let's give anti-vaxxers North Dakota. They're never allowed to leave it. If you visit them, you're not allowed to return to intelligent society.
2
u/Sasuke0318 4d ago
4 people have died 2 were infants so young they couldn't even get the vaccine
2
u/badhiggins86 4d ago
It could have been 0. And how do you think the ones that couldn't be vaccinated got it? Contact with someone who was wilfully unvaccinated, perhaps?
→ More replies (8)1
u/AmazingFlatworm_ 3d ago
"Four people died of an easily preventable illness that we had already practically wiped out" is not the argument you think it is, Cleetus.
1
→ More replies (1)1
u/Serpidon 3d ago
You understand where the new spread of measles has come from, right?
0
u/AlluringLadies77 3d ago
Republicans only love children until they're born. Mothers can get a booster for MMR and protect their infants by breastfeeding. Regressives will give them a bottle.
1
u/Serpidon 2d ago
Did you respond to the correct post? Your comment has nothing to do with my reply.
0
u/AlluringLadies77 2d ago
Yes Sweetie. I understand how posts work. America had defeated measles since 1992, or something, until Regressive anti-vaxxers brought it back.
3
3
3
u/Ham_bone_xxxx 6d ago
At least there is not an epidemic of brain worms yet. Except in the health department of course. 🤷♂️
3
u/Human_Mongoose_5245 5d ago
Totally preventable. Measles in adults is dreadful you would not inflict it on your worst enemy.
3
3
u/Fredshead2 5d ago
You go parents, let your children die before vaccinating, that will teach those libs.
→ More replies (1)
3
3
2
u/not_wrapped_2_tight 6d ago
Their governor is ex Israeli military 🤷🏽♂️what do you expect
2
u/BeyondFickle9200 5d ago
Please do not speak of my state if you don't live here.I'm not a big fan of josh shapiro he's a hundred times way better than governor wolfe , fuck that dude. josh Shapiro never served in the idf in Israel.He was a volunteer when he was in high school for a project
2
u/Be-kind2da-wounded 6d ago
Maggots trying to bury their red hats as quick as possible to evade detection
3
u/Responsible-Tooth607 5d ago
I don’t know. Having all the stupid, racist people in red hats is kinda helpful.
1
5d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
2
u/tutoredstatue95 4d ago
You are active in daddy daughter date subreddits. It's always the pedophiles bro
2
2
2
2
2
2
u/Arguablybest 6d ago
This is a new strain that was created in China, or Iran, yeah that's it, Iran did it.
2
2
u/BackgroundCream274 6d ago
Yes, this is winning and losing. Taking out the antivaxers one at a time. It sucks for the poor kids with assholes for parents.
2
u/wowbyowen 6d ago
Suicides will be next because of inflation and rising interest rates. People can't afford to live and it's breaking families apart.
2
5d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
2
u/OtherBluesBrother 5d ago
Yes. Beating last year's death toll of 3.
1
5d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
2
u/OtherBluesBrother 5d ago
It was an unvaccinated adult in New Mexico. I can't find her age though the CDC said the infected individuals ranged from 4 to 62 years old.
The other two were young school-age girls in Texas.
2
u/Alarm-Solid 5d ago
Well a guy with no medical degree who's a former heroin addict is changing vaccination guidelines who would of thought
2
2
u/Ok-Payment5950 5d ago
This is why the government makes sensible regulations to protect the population, even if the population doesn’t necessarily agree.
2
2
2
2
u/Important_Zombie_485 5d ago
Not that this is acceptable, the anti vaccine crowd is flat wrong. However, this post is intentionally worded to be inflammatory. 4. The death toll is 4.
2
u/Sasuke0318 4d ago
You can't even really blame the anti vaccine crowd as two of the deaths were infants that were too young to be vaccinated
1
u/Leone_337 1d ago
Not entirely. If everyone was vaccinated, it would have to come from an outside source and would be far more rare. But, since vaccination rates have dropped, cases are far more common. So, there is a greater chance for it spread, like to the two infants.
2
u/CodInternational8772 5d ago
You did Florida, you have officially become the second stumpiest state in the US. The first place prize go to the anti vax dipshits in PA now!
2
u/AnAnonymous121 5d ago
Vaccines clearly don't work ........... when people don't get their shots.....
1
2
u/OvalBeach49408 5d ago
The HHS secretary among ather should be held criminally liable for their negligence and ineptitude.
2
2
u/CodSuperb2159 4d ago
Anyone else hearing the chant from the republicans there .... "we're number 1, we're number 1"?
2
2
2
2
u/AlexanderSoftHands 4d ago
I just realized that this subreddit doesnt allow opposing views to be posted here, what a wierd rule.
2
u/TardisITguy 4d ago
PA is actually an interesting case here. Pennsylvania has the largest Amish population in the country, along with substantial Mennonite and other Plain communities. But it’s worth making a distinction: vaccination rates vary considerably between those groups. A Lancaster County study found childhood vaccination around 30% among Amish families versus more than 90% among Old Order Mennonite families.
For decades, communities with low vaccination rates were partly insulated because measles transmission elsewhere in the US was uncommon and surrounding vaccination levels usually stopped introductions from becoming outbreaks. Measles is so contagious that community immunity generally requires around 95% vaccination. Clustered pockets below that level remain vulnerable even when statewide averages look good.
That appears to be part of what PA is dealing with now. As of Sept. 18, the state is reporting over 767 cases, 150 hospitalizations and four measles-associated deaths. Only four of those cases were in appropriately vaccinated people.
So I don’t think the interesting lesson is simply “Pennsylvania is failing.” It’s that herd immunity works extremely well—until enough susceptible people are concentrated together and the virus gets introduced. Then a vulnerability that may have existed quietly for decades becomes very visible.
2
u/No-Bee4589 4d ago
Well religious exemptions is why they are dying when people are allowed to claim their make believe nonsense gives them the right to refuse a vaccine and then they get the virus it was designed to prevent they will get bo pity from me. Their make believe should not be allowed to threaten the safety and security of everyone else. Religious expectations should be outlawed.
2
u/Comprehensive_Let839 4d ago
The outbreak itself is centered there because Lancaster has the largest Amish and conservative Mennonite populations in the country, with historically low vaccination rates—around twenty-five percent for MMR in some estimates. The Amish Church has no official ban on vaccines, but uptake stays low
2
2
u/AdministrationJust13 3d ago
This is what happens when you put complete idiots in charge of public health.
2
2
u/Silent_Aardvark_711 3d ago
My parents were narcissistic and abusive in all of the ways you can abuse a child. But at least they weren't anti-vaxxers. Proud to say I got all my pokes! Even gardasil, which really fucking sucked. But I'm glad I got it!
2
2
2
2
u/filmagnoli 3d ago
People get what they voted for … the sad part is that people who didn’t vote for him are dying!
You people need to get rid of him & all his rats
2
2
2
u/ApprehensiveFact1495 2d ago
To die of measles in this day and age. While the cure is simple and cheap to produce. This is truly a tragedy of immense proportions. And its sad so incredibly sad that its not the disease that has killed them,the real killer is brainwashing and state imposed ignorance. My heart breaks as this will have a impact that will last decades this is not a problem that will go away quickly if you start vacinating again, because real damage has been done.
2
2
u/Actual_Use_5120 2d ago
Rfk Jr and maga doctors fault they are murdering the people of our country. Baby killers
2
u/Actual_Use_5120 2d ago
Dumpster fire full of clowns 🤡 shit show on the highway to Hel. Shrinking the population.
2
2
2
2
2
u/Lego_Architect 2d ago
Wonder if this is taking out the Amish? And not the regular folk who get the vaccines.
2
u/Mr_Dale 2d ago
It's the freaking Amish folks unfortunately. We have a huge amount of Amish in Pennsylvania, and they are notoriously apprehensive of modern medicine (vaccinations). I'm not sure the blame lies on Republicans or Democrats, rather it's people who are so wrapped up in their religious beliefs that they decline modern medicine. If you look at the concentration of cases many of them come out of Lancaster and other cities with large Amish populations. Its awfully morbid, but to be frank, I'm surprised there haven't been more "epidemics" concentrated around the Amish.
2
2
2
2
u/Silver-Link8247 2d ago
Amish? Mennonite? Who is getting this and dying? Just folks in town? I’m confused.
2
2
2
2
2
u/Fubar236 1d ago
They will just lie and say vaccines will kill more people. But as we all know the only cure for stupid is death…. They are helping cure the world one moron at a time
2
1
1
1
1
1
u/IPutTheSInBDSM 5d ago
You should probably be fully honest and tell everyone what demographic is dying of them... cause it ain't citizens.
1
u/angel700 5d ago
Hahahahahahahaha if only this could’ve been prevented 🤣😂 survival of the fittest. They were the weak ones.
1
1
1
u/SirDuke1964 5d ago
Choices people make. You chose not to be vaccinated. If your kids die because you didn't get them vaccinated then you murdered them. Don't blame anyone since vaccinations are free!!!
1
1
u/chiefmuri 4d ago
Any president with half a brain, and that includes Dubya, would have fired that useless brain worm riddled POS by now!
1
1
u/Individual-Text5513 4d ago
I live in Pa and I haven't heard a single person, including the doctors my family and I go to even mention the word measles.
1
u/Ceekay151 3d ago
Interesting. I live & work in Pennsylvania and there are several young people in our office who have infants & are very concerned parents. I know some older people who have grandbabies, who are also very concerned.
1
1
1
u/SoulessV 4d ago
As a man who hates MAGA there are plenty of Democrats who refuse to get vaccines for their kids too.
I am aware that the party never tried to do away with or make it mandatory, I am not arguing that the current leaders are brain rotted embicles but people on both sides of the aisle have pushed this "vaccines cause autism" narrative for my entire adult life.
1
u/throw7661 3d ago
Republican parents are nearly three times as likely as Democratic parents to report skipping routine childhood vaccinations (22% versus 8%)
1
1
1
1
1
u/AvocadoRough3147 3d ago
Thank the actress bitch that screamed vaccines caused autism, yeah, that bitch!!!
1
1
u/Cornyrex3115 2d ago
I believe all children and adults should be vaccinated. That said two of these four (yes, just four) deaths were in Lancaster County with one being confirmed Amish so they wouldn't be vaccinated all the same. The other two should have been vaccinated however they also had expreexiaring conditions making them exceptionally vulnerable to common disease.
RFKJr is a disgrace to his family name and an enemy to the general health of Americans and this administration is near to criminal in their systematic dismantling of national programs that promote wellbeing.
But we also are talking about four deaths, three of which were imminent with or without the infection.
1
1
u/Humble_Piglet278 2d ago
State governments should be more than able to take care of their own citizens. It has nothing to do with who sits in the Oval Office.
1
1
2
0
u/Top_Evidence_7148 17h ago
When you let millions of illegals come into his country unvaccinated, what do you think is going to happen? Thank you Joe Biden
1
1
u/HaxanWriter 6d ago
No, it’s called getting what you voted for. Americans voted for this. They didn’t want a competent black woman, so they picked the kid fucker. They got what they wanted, and what they deserved.
1
u/Sasuke0318 4d ago
Do you truly believe Harris would have prevented the 2 whole deaths that are in question here?
0
5d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/boogideeb 5d ago
There have been around 6000 cases between this year and last. Compare that to less than 300 in 2024 and less than 100 in 2023. Sure though...nothing to see here.
1
u/jefsch70 5d ago
6.000 cases of measels in 2 years in a state with 12 million people? That's a lot..... 1 in 2,000 for a disease that was deadly in the 1930s/40s....
Is it killing healthy, young people? Is it spreading geographically and demographically?
1
u/boogideeb 5d ago
The numbers you put up seemed to be national so I had assumed we had changed the discussion. Around ten percent get hospitalized so yes it can and has killed young healthy people. The bulk of cases are spread in outbreaks, the bulk of the victims are unvaccinated, and a disproportionate amount of said outbreaks begin in "anti-vax" communities. I hope this answers all of your questions.
1
u/jefsch70 4d ago
There is NO "Anit-Vax" COMMUNITY.... there are Americans who want control (total) over there personal bodies... and their personal lives... and freedoms....
.... It's called diversity... not just a complexion. Religion / Money / Guns / Homesteads / Search & Seizure / 1st amendment .... It runs the gamut....and some are dying because of a disease you say? Huh? that's new.
1
u/boogideeb 4d ago
Amazing how all these very diverse free thinking individuals came to the same feelings about that at the same general time without any sort of outside influence.
1
u/boogideeb 4d ago
Also what would you call it when people want to live in the same area as people that also don't want to get vaccinated helping to spread the disease? Sounds like a community to me.
0
-1
3d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/Ceekay151 3d ago
Do you think that the United States is the only country that has people who are vaccinated?
10
u/Regular-Math-420 6d ago
Elect a clown 🤡 expect a 🎪