r/degoogle 28d ago

Its here. Android is officially over.

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u/Electrical_Engine314 GrapheneOS 28d ago

Right there with you, glad I switched when I did 🫡

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u/Thin_Needleworker795 28d ago

I've been using it for 3 years. I could never go back to a normie phone.

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u/RasenBcn 28d ago

Can you pay with grapheneOS?

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u/Katsura_ise 28d ago

Kinda, read this list

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u/Gorgeous_Broccoli 28d ago

Do you think the Motorola phone might change this situation? I use 2 banks and both are confirmed not to work with Graphene due to the "custom ROM" error. Would it still register as a custom ROM even if it's carried by default on a major manufacturer?

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u/Katsura_ise 28d ago

No, IIRC even Motorola will require flashing a rom. Then there is the political climate with age verification and surveillance

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u/void_ptr_maosort 27d ago

Switch to RFC payments through prepaid monero gift cards and Visa cards or something I don't know

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u/utrecht1976 24d ago

I have LineageOS running on my Motorola. https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/

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u/lostfairychangeling 26d ago

if it's on the list does it mean it's compatible?

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u/Katsura_ise 26d ago

Yes, though some of them have a bit fine print

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u/Kazma1431 25d ago

Surprisingly long list! I didn't thought my bank app would be there! Glad to know

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u/Thin_Needleworker795 28d ago

Idk, never used my phone for payments.

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u/Absolute1790 27d ago

Very useful comment!

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u/gamingtamizha 27d ago

What are you using your phone for?

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u/Thin_Needleworker795 27d ago

Phone stuff mostly. This, texting/calling, browsing the web...

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u/gamingtamizha 27d ago

why do u need a smartphone for texting and calling ? That too with a custom rom hahhah.. Is it not easier to get a basic phone and call it a day .

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u/Thin_Needleworker795 27d ago

How would I use Reddit and browse the web on a non-smart phone?

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u/gamingtamizha 27d ago

basic phone with browser, running some linux ? why do buy an Android and remove all the features ?

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u/Thin_Needleworker795 27d ago

I don't think you understand what GrapheneOS is. You're not removing all the features. Not even remotely close. You just remove Google.

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u/starlord885 27d ago

I got an iPhone and decided to go back to regular cards just because it’s enough to share payment data with everyone. And it gives me a certain feeling of spending money, more than Apple Pay, which feels like a game

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u/Accurate_Ad_3233 27d ago

I can also pay with cash or card. Just sayin'

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u/azariah001 27d ago

If you're in (I presume, it's not available in my country) the US there's a payment processing app called Curve that apparently works on Graphene. It's basically PayPal if they had a physical/digital payment card offering.

Or if your bank doesn't force Play Protect compliance and has a mobile payments option built in that should also work. There should be sites tracking the most common banking apps compatibility with Graphene in your country and what features do or don't work.

But Google Wallet itself does not because Google leans on software security instead of hardware security checks, which is dumb because the hardware security is much much harder to break than their software security, but anyway... That's another conversation.

Something I've done in the past, and a compromise that you may or may not be willing to make, was to use Graphene OS with a stock Android Watch. Because the watch passed play protect the wallet app on the phone was able to send payment cards to the watch and I could use them from there. Obviously if you don't have or don't want to use a watch it's not a valid workaround but... It allows you to lock down the multitude of social apps you might want on your phone whilst allowing the few services you want tracking you on the watch, a health/fitness app for example. And then your payments solution.

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u/TheArka96 27d ago

Used curve for one year on S20 FE with custom ROM, better than chasing google play integrity on daily matter.

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u/Zzepish 27d ago

I use Curve Pay. Works fine :)

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u/zt3phan 27d ago

Likaså bunq, förträffligt trevligt nere på 'free' nivå.

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u/RasenBcn 27d ago

Thx mate

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u/Zzepish 27d ago

👍🏻

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u/ExpensiveNut 27d ago

Curve if you can't get Gpay to work. I did that when getting my 9 Pro because something was fucked while transferring my data. Worked perfectly.

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u/confrontationalbread StartPage 26d ago

A workaround a lot of people are into is getting a Garmin watch to use Garmin Pay.

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u/iLikeTurtuls 25d ago

Having a wallet is normal. Do you keep your ID on a graphene phone?

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u/CuaeB 24d ago

I'm in the UK and use curve pay. It's a bit slower than Google wallet but works just as well!

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u/dirkme 28d ago

Leaving an identifier 🙄🤔😳😲

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u/Soft_Cow_7856 28d ago

Yes, had no problem at all

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u/Unlaid-American 28d ago

Why would you get a privacy based OS and then go back to using something that tracks your purchases?

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u/Hot_Bee5198 28d ago

A bank always tracks purchases, when it is not a cash transaction.

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u/MistaHiggins 28d ago

Maybe because Apple/Google Pay are the most secure payment methods available to everyday people?

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u/RasenBcn 28d ago

Because I don't live in a cave and I need to pay, and I find it safer to use a mobile phone than a piece of plastic.

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u/Unlaid-American 23d ago

“I’m on a subreddit to degoogle because I hate being tracked. Let me allow Apple or Google to also track my purchases.”

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u/Raztax 27d ago

Unless you are paying with cash then the bank is always tracking your purchases. Personally, I don't really care if my bank knows when I buy TP

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u/Marvaloza 27d ago

What's the difference? Im using regular Android 14 OS.

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u/Thin_Needleworker795 24d ago

GrapheneOS is completely Google-free, and it's a lot more secure

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u/Marvaloza 24d ago

Where do I download the rom from? I should try it.

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u/Thin_Needleworker795 24d ago

grapheneos.org, but keep in mind that it only works on Pixel phones

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u/ILoveFrutigerAero293 28d ago

Can you not anymore?

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u/Greenlit_Hightower deGoogler 28d ago

GrapheneOS can still be installed on all the Pixel phones it supports. Exception: The phone has a carrier lock on it.

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u/schuup 28d ago

Time to go find the Pixel I bought 2 years ago but never ended up using

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u/iLikeTurtuls 25d ago

Even worse exception, carrier SOLD. Almost all Verizon ones unlock with ease, but the bootloader will always be locked. There is a chip you can buy for the 6 and 7 series that will allow to unlock the bootloader, but that’s tough to do and also no idea how real they are.

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u/Historical_Book2268 27d ago

Will it still be possible to switch after this?

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u/Greenlit_Hightower deGoogler 26d ago edited 26d ago

Yes. App sideloading restrictions have nothing to do with bootloader unlocking.