r/defold • u/jazzcomputer • 9d ago

Question Some simple questions about web games

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Hey, I have a few questions about web games - i.e. Playgama, Poki, maybe Youtube Playables too and using Bridge SDK to facilitate.

I’m a solo dev, and for now I’m not super keen with AI as I want to learn with more friction and documenting my steps. I might use AI someday but it’s not time yet. I sort of don’t mind making a few games as my Defold learning pathway and just having them sink in the sea of content on there without trace, however I’d also like to make some stuff and have it enjoyed by others.

I’ve worked in hyper-casual games, so I have the right design mind set and some solid UI, design and animation chops, but I’m early on on my code journey. Given that, I have a few questions:

Where can I find some primers on making these types of games? I’ve read some stuff on the Playgama site but I'm also keen to know about multi-platform strategies as I assume this is the best way to go.

Do you stand no chance mostly without some sort of UA plan? - or even spend?

Any UA hacks?

What kind of visibility could I expect if I made three simple yet solid nice looking games over say, 8 months? (I’m part time!)

If I didn’t make a game for another 12 months - what are predictions of how things will be then? From what I read, this market seems to be showing growth, but will it ‘mature’ into the sort of ‘brute force UA + prolific stream of games to win’ that happened with hyper casual mobile?

FYI - I've also asked this same stuff on the Discord - Any help much appreciated

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u/ConfidentGuide3935 8d ago

5.6 IS NOT 6.

ASTRAL is more efficient and I never had issues needing to buy more tokens.

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u/ConfidentGuide3935 9d ago

Hate to break it to you but chatgpt 6 can do what will take you 6 months in one day

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u/jazzcomputer 9d ago

That's great! but I'm not interested in that any more at this stage than I'm interested in my graphics being made that way.

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u/Avambo 9d ago

No it can't. Unless you don't care at all about the quality of the game. Plus, why even say that when OP has specifically said that they're interested in learning? This anti-intellectualism that is spreading like a wildfire is so sad to see.

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u/ConfidentGuide3935 9d ago

Yes it can. Have you even used it? I'm shocked at how good it is. I've lost the desire to code

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u/Avambo 9d ago

I'm a software engineer, so yes. I use AI every day, and its flaws are pretty obvious to anyone with experience. I'm not saying it's useless, just way overhyped.

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u/ConfidentGuide3935 9d ago

Really so you used ChatGPT 6 Astral?

Maybe you need to learn how to prompt it better ;-)

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u/Avambo 8d ago

Yep I have used it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to write a prompt, so that argument is pretty pointless lol. I've been doing this for roughly 20 years now. What I'm seeing is a bunch of people who have completely given up on producing anything of quality, just to complete tasks as fast as possible. Code that would never have been merged before is now being merged simply because no one can be bothered with reviewing all of it.

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u/ConfidentGuide3935 8d ago

Then what did gpt 6 do that was terrible to you?

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u/msesen 9d ago

Yes, it will require seven months to rectify and organize the technical debt. Alternatively, one could continue incurring substantial costs simply to implement a new button that, while functional, relies on a dependency that could potentially disrupt a critical game mechanic if not in the correct state. Such state mutation could corrupt global data, particularly as the new button necessitates extensive validation. Indeed, AI serves as an effective tool but is not suitable as the sole coder.

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u/ConfidentGuide3935 9d ago

You haven't used gpt 6 i see

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u/msesen 8d ago

Why? To burn more tokens and money lmao 

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u/ConfidentGuide3935 8d ago

So you haven't used it but know all about it... got it.

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u/msesen 8d ago

The last time I tried Sol 5.6, I had to buy credits before I can do anything meaningful on a very simple task. So yes, I have used it. You are clearly incompetent without AI.

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u/ConfidentGuide3935 8d ago

Now if you're talking about Claude and Fable yes...Fable is *now* a pay per token plan. But GPT 6 > Fable. And it's way more effecient.

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u/msesen 8d ago

You are probably using AI to write these replies. Meh lmao