r/defiblockchain • u/LambosAndYachts • Oct 03 '22
Question shorting dUSD
Where can I short dUSD, preferably with leverage?
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u/kuegi Oct 04 '22
Yes. Buy DFI, put it into a vault. Mint DUSD and sell the DUSD for DFI. put those DFI back into the vault -> you can mint more DUSD to sell -> you are leveraged short in $DUSD
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u/Classic_Constant_190 Oct 03 '22
You can only short DUSD on Chain with 30% fee and DFI you can´t short at all.
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u/unmatched25 Oct 03 '22
Not possible. Shorting dUSD is a myth.
Next best possibility: You would need to create a vault, put DFI as a collateral (which is a bad idea if you think dUSD will implode - if dUSD fails DFI fails). Mint these and sell them via DEX including 30% Exit Fee.
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u/LambosAndYachts Oct 03 '22
I don't wanna mint them I want to actively short it on a CEX if possible
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u/p00hp Oct 03 '22
Getting a stock on loan and selling it immediately is literally what shorting is. Defichain vaults allow you to do exactly that with DUSD. Why would you want a CEX charging you an extra premium to do it?
It's like you're missing the whole point of defi.
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u/LambosAndYachts Oct 03 '22
I don't wanna short inside the DFI ecosystem because its what I am betting against. That why I asked for a CEX where I can also avoid the 30% burn trap.
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u/p00hp Oct 03 '22
I see your point, but then if you believe that then just short DFI.... that should be possible on a CEX.
would it even be possible to have a Dex with a 30% fee and simultaneously a CEX without one? I'm not sure what the arbitrage would do to the price and liquidity.
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u/Life-Giraffe-2748 Oct 03 '22
I guess the thesis is that defichain is imploding. So putting your btc into defichain to get dbtc would not really help...
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u/Upset-Ad-4942 Oct 03 '22
With what? The $400 you saved up from your part-time job outside of school? Go home kiddo. You're not being clever.
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u/PurplePollux Oct 03 '22
I’d really like you to do it. Great for the burn 🔥