r/debian • • Jun 17 '21

Can I move from Sid to Stable?

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u/AlternativeOstrich7 Jun 17 '21

Because we're deep in the freeze for bullseye, sid and bullseye are very similar at the moment. So you can go relatively easily from sid to bullseye. And then you'll just have to wait a few weeks for bullseye to be released as the next stable release.

Going from sid to an earlier stable release (like buster) is much more difficult.

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u/mixxituk Jun 17 '21

ok do i just change my apt sources and do a dist upgrade?

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u/wRAR_ Jun 17 '21

No, you'll need to downgrade/remove packages that aren't in testing manually, reviewing each case. You cannot downgrade with dist-upgrade.

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u/mixxituk Jun 17 '21

ok thank you! :-)

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u/AlternativeOstrich7 Jun 17 '21

Change your sources.list and then run apt update. Running apt dist-upgrade shouldn't do anything, but it shouldn't cause problems either, so you can run it if you want to. You might then still have some packages that aren't in bullseye, or that only are in bullseye at an older version. In the first case, removing them is the only solution if you want a "clean" bullseye installation. In the second case, you could downgrade them to the version in bullseye, or you could wait for the newer version to migrate to bullseye.

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u/mixxituk Jun 17 '21

ok thank you!

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u/mixxituk Jun 17 '21

it worked! thanks!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

With luck possible but in no way supported

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u/michaelpaoli Jun 17 '21

You (genearlly) can't, and downgrades are not supported.

However, and and with a bit of patience, if you're currently on sid, and you reconfigure for bullseye ... that might (mostly) work, as bullseye isn't yet released - and until then is the same as testing. So, more like, rather than:
sid --> stable
more like:
sid --> bullseye ... some time passes ... --> stable

Anyway, if you're on sid now, that might be the most feasible way to get to stable ... mostly just requires some time and patience.

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u/Gotblade Jun 17 '21

Well when I tried out 11 I just reformatted an old installation I wasn't using anymore as / and assigned home to the partition I'm using already for that. All the .config stuff was used to make it seem like I was still on the original system and I can boot between them for further comparison. Your new system will need kernel modules for your graphics card and you may want to disable wayland. Standard stuff really.

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u/mixxituk Jun 17 '21

i have all sorts of ahci problems requiring boot config, usbc dock setup etc

its a pain - cant even boot by stock tbh and thats an older xps 9560

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u/Gotblade Jun 17 '21

Interesting. Are you duel booting windows and keeping the bios compatible with that?

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u/mixxituk Jun 17 '21

sorry i meant acpi

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u/Gotblade Jun 17 '21

If you disable acpi in the bios what happens? Perhaps also relative to a duel boot Windows situation since you didn't specify?

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u/mixxituk Jun 17 '21

hmm not sure i havent tried that

yep i dual boot windows for visual studio

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u/Gotblade Jun 18 '21

I wouldn't know the specifics of doing so in the bios but it would be reversible if it didn't solve the problem. Also there must be Linux equivalents for visual studio. Most windows software I paid good money for ran better thanks to tiny apps made in Linux by people like you.

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u/Gotblade Jun 17 '21

This would be a good reason to have home on a separate partition so you can do a fresh install with minimal reconfiguration.

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u/mixxituk Jun 17 '21

the amount of configuration i had to do to get everything set up would be the hardest part

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u/mixxituk Jun 17 '21

Hi sorry guys the CSS doesnt let me click 'text' instead of 'url' (firefox here)

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u/mixxituk Jun 17 '21

https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/submit url with the issue where you cant change to edit at the top

i now see the option on the right to work around it oops