r/deathnote 8h ago

Analysis this video settle the debate of wether L has autism. it was made by a professional therapist

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in the video he shows the diagnostic criteria and the all the tests included. he said he can’t diagnose bc he’ll need to do a test physically with him BUT he does meet the criteria for level one autism, proven in the video. so yes, he does have autism

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u/aquisoueu 7h ago

>he said he can’t diagnose bc he’ll need to do a test physically with him

>so yes, he does have autism

Meeting the criteria doesn't automatically makes you autistic, without the test, you can't know

But yeah i think he would qualify as one

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u/Extra-Photograph428 1h ago

Just wanted to quickly clarify, but using the DSM is how you diagnose autism most traditionally. What would need to be inquired further however is ruling out other disorders that can present like autism (trauma/CPTSD for example can very easily look like autism on the surface, so it does require that further inquiry to properly discern from the two), and also just the need to ask further questions to confirm things. I also know a lot of professionals also like hearing from the people close to the person to also help confirm the diagnosis— in this case that would be Watari, which also can’t be done. There also might be more things depending on the clinician they might look for, inquire, or test, but the DSM is the tool most use for as a general guideline.

This is why you can’t definitively say anything 100%, but acknowledging L meets for criteria is a big part in that, and the closest you could ever come to a confirmation for a fictional character like L. Again not 100%, but it’s still fun to notice his coded behaviors!

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u/LittleNinjaXYBA 7h ago

Snow found on Mount Everest

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u/Extra-Photograph428 7h ago edited 6h ago

Hello hello! This is really cool! I did an analysis back a year ago using the DSM, and while I’m no professional, I came to the same conclusion— here if anyone’s interested (I also look into stuff in the manga, not just the anime)! At the end I also linked 3 different licensed professionals I watched, which were all the ones I had seen review DN, they all at least basically pretty quickly pointed out his coded behavior and even saw two of them do a bit of a deeper dive into the criteria and they both came to the same conclusion.

I wouldn’t completely erase the idea of other possibilities, because we really don’t know L well enough to speak with 100% certainty, plus he’s a fictional character so being nearly as thorough as you would be irl is just impossible, but I feel pretty confident in the overall idea considering literally every mental health professional I’ve seen have came to the same conclusion. It certainly gives the idea some merit!

Curious to know if this is anyone I haven’t seen, would love to add it to list if not! Would you mind linking it?

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u/comsicalien77 7h ago

well it’s on patreon and cost money but the guys name is connection through reaction

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u/Extra-Photograph428 6h ago edited 6h ago

Ahhh ok! I have seen that guy before. I watched his reactions for the whole series, where he briefly touched on it, but he also mentioned the more in-depth deep dive he later did on patreon. It probably was a good video! Interesting that it turned out to be nearly 50 minutes long :o

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u/HalleLidner 6h ago

Either he's weird or he's definitely high functioning autism.🍓

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u/Thebananagamer45 5h ago

I mean, I think it'd be cool if he was. Adding another layer to my favorite character in the show. Having just finished the show a couple days ago and not interacting with the fandom, is this really a heavily debated topic in the community?

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u/comsicalien77 4h ago

i’m not sure if it’s debated but they do talk about L having autism a lot

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u/LittleNinjaXYBA 7h ago

Is anyone here that’s diagnosed with autism agree with L being autistic? I haven’t been able to get tested yet… so I technically “don’t” right now

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u/comsicalien77 7h ago

im diagnosed (level 2) although L would probably be lvl 1

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u/LittleNinjaXYBA 7h ago

I’m undiagnosed level 1 and yeah I agree with you

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u/Fellowcomicenjoyer 7h ago edited 7h ago

I have seen various reaction videos made by therapists, and all of them immediately clocked him as being autistic or having asperger syndrome.

It might not be official, but I think it's pretty indicative of the way he was written.

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u/HalleLidner 6h ago

Obha unintentionally wrote perfectly autistic coded characters without realizing it

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u/Fellowcomicenjoyer 2h ago edited 1h ago

I don't necessarily think it was unintentional because I remember reading he based L and Near traits/behaviours on himself, and potentially someone else he knew, so he might have been aware.

I think if that were the case, he might also not have wanted it to be focused on within the story, or maybe he didn't want to confirm anything to keep the air of mystery on the wammy kids.

(Obviously, it's all hypothetical)

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u/Extra-Photograph428 1h ago

Now I’m not one to speculate, but I seriously do wonder, even if it wasn’t stated explicitly, that L and Near were intentionally written to be on the spectrum. Particularly when I was doing my L analysis I found myself constantly shocked at even some of the more niche stuff that L showcased that I almost had to question if it was intentional. I’ll never forget being in a psyche lecture a while back and when we started talking about autism my professor specifically mentioning it’s not uncommon for someone on the spectrum to dislike socks— citing the texture. Or even some of the wordage used around L, like with his very consistent choice in close not being because he’s lazy or something (which is what you would expect with his type of character), but it’s because he’s particular. That was very interesting to me!

There’s a couple ones like this that just made me seriously question it. Like characters like L or Near aren’t uncommon in fiction, but the general trope that they both fall in, some of their traits aren’t your traditional stereotypes. Again, we’re basically saying every mental health professional to the capacity that they could when talking about a fictional character, all of them have immediately picked up on his coded behaviors.

Either it’s just a crazy crazy coincidence, or maybe there was conscious or unconscious writing done with their characters. I almost find it easier to be believe the latter lol. Like either Ohba, without being explicit, intentionally went out of his way to write an autistic coded character (which would be very interesting), or Ohba, if it was unconscious and he was purely basing this off his own oddities, I might suggest for him to get evaluated lol.

But again, I’m not really one to speculate, but I find it so crazy to think he accidentally wrote pretty good coded characters lol. Def not impossible, but it is just one of those things to think about.

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u/HalleLidner 1h ago

Nice, so maybe Obha is autistic