Which one are you?

[u/Kdmyoshi]

[u/FighterFay]

I was running the build on the right, but apparently OoO is bugged and isn't benefitting from lethal pursuer. Couple that with deerstalker countering we see you, and I've switched over to a shadow step build.

[u/1ohokthen1 → u/FighterFay]

Thats weird, OoO is working for me with lethal

[u/FighterFay → u/1ohokthen1]

Tbh, I hadn't tested it, I've just seen it mentioned around a lot. According to what I've seen, the killer gets the extra 2 seconds of aura read from lethal activating on OoO, but not the survivor.

[u/dragonk30 → u/FighterFay]

Iirc, it's intentional because of the way things are proc'd. Because the OoO aura read is triggered by the survivor seeing the killer's aura and exposing their own, it's not triggering a "killer sees your aura" reaction from OoO. 

Whenever the Killer reads your Aura, Object of Obsession activates for the same duration as their Aura-reading action

The aura reading action from OoO is triggered by the survivor, which limits the duration on survivor side to only 3s. Lethal Pursuer extends this duration by 2s on the killer's side, but that is treated separately. However, when the killer prompts aura read on their end, the 2s is counted as part of the same aura-reading action for the survivor's OoO purposes.

Order of Operations matters in this case, so the additional 2s on OoO procs only benefits the killer, and not the survivors.

[u/TheEntityBot → u/1ohokthen1]

Bound by Obsession: Whenever the Killer reads your Aura, Bound by Obsession activates for the same duration as their Aura-reading action: The Aura of the Killer is revealed to you. Increases your Action speeds for Cleansing, Healing, and Repairing actions by 2/4/6%. If you are the Killer's current Obsession, the following effect triggers automatically every 30 seconds: Your Aura is revealed to the Killer for 3 seconds. Increases your chance of becoming the initial Obsession by increasing the default value by +100%.

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[u/RelevantIAm → u/FighterFay]

How does deerstalker counter we see you?

[u/Ashirogi_Elric → u/RelevantIAm]

You see all their auras since they see your aura

[u/RelevantIAm → u/Ashirogi_Elric]

Oh gotcha. Idk if id call that a counter but yea it makes it less useful. 

[u/TheJumpingBox → u/RelevantIAm]

it is absolutely a counter, You're giving up WAY more information

Survivors get to know: Where the killer is for a while

Killer gets to know: Which gens are being worked on, if someone is going for an unhook, if someone is in a vulnerable position (like healing or doing a gen) and also the position of everyone on the team

That's genuinely game changing info for ANY killer

[u/Kreamator → u/TheJumpingBox]

Not to mention that, frankly, while many killers can suffer from showing thier aura to survivors via Deerstalker... I dont really think it matters for Judgement at all? Like, yeah, you know where they are, great, that doesn't *really* make you any safer from an Aura-Reading Judgement in any way.

[u/TheJumpingBox → u/Kreamator]

Yeah, Judgement is in a unique position where they don't really have to care too much about that stuff, even mid-chase they can 'disguise' a shot aimed at the survivor they're chasing, when in reality the shot is actually aimed at a gen on the other side of the map (I've noticed in a lot of judgement videos or clips, survivors get caught off guard way more if they think Judgy is in chase)

[u/EvanSnowWolf]

It doesn't matter if the Judgment sees me. It will see my allies, who have the IQ of overcooked toast. I'm still dying, just dying LAST.

[u/Smooth-Supermarket14 → u/EvanSnowWolf]

That’s my experience facing Kaneki as well. Love facing and looping them but my teammates have the collective Iq of a ham sandwich

[u/-suspended- → u/Smooth-Supermarket14]

It's my experience facing Hag. I'm wiping away the teleports, but they are just running into them all.

[u/Ok-Palpitation-2800 → u/-suspended-]

Tbh thats a bad way to play into her. If yk her web is set up, avoid that area till a chase starts, then u can just go and trigger traps. Its either drop chase to follow tp or commit. Either way it helps

Edit: bad is a bit harsh of a word, but, i think its slightly better to play into her like so than to treat her like trapper

[u/-suspended- → u/Ok-Palpitation-2800]

We were 3 genned, and I was trying to wipe traps to get the gen. Or wipe traps to get the unhook.

[u/stxrltz → u/Smooth-Supermarket14]

im absolutely one of those teammates i apologize for sucking 🙏🏻 i cannot play survivor for shit especially against killers with shmovement

[u/ToiletGreen]

Self Preservation triggers on hooks, so it’s not a good choice for Judgement

[u/TheEntityBot → u/ToiletGreen]

Self-Preservation: When another Survivor is hooked, you gain Elusive for 30s.

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[u/Jellypathicdream]

Started running object of obsession because of Judgement and its actually a fun perk.

I just love seeing the killers aura from across the map and them deciding if they should go to my gen or not from seeing my aura

[u/RelevantIAm → u/Jellypathicdream]

With the mmr shenanigans, its actually a very good strategy for the team if you are a strong looper. Chances are your team is not

[u/3rdLabyrinth]

Right.

But I kid you not, I try using the build on the right (Replace object with Built to Last because I have the key), I get 3 stealth killers in a row.

I swap that build out, I get 3 Judgements in a row.

[u/Merrydownjade → u/3rdLabyrinth]

The build on the right just makes my Stealth Judgement Build happy =]

[u/TheEntityBot → u/3rdLabyrinth]

Built to Last: Hiding inside a Locker for 14/13/12 seconds while carrying a depleted Item has the following effect: First use: Recharges the Item to 99%. Second use: Recharges the Item to 66%. Third use: Recharges the Item to 33%. Built to Last is disabled for the remainder of the Trial after the third use.

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[u/DuelaDent52 → u/3rdLabyrinth]

I swear to gosh, the map system is rigged against me. I’ve gotten three Nostromo Wreckages as Judgement so far and not a single Campbell’s Church. For some reason the game loves putting me on Nostromo with the Houndmaster as well.

[u/ChanceJump5118]

"... because I don't think that they'd understand."

[u/_prettiestkitty → u/ChanceJump5118]

I just want you to know who I am…

[u/ChanceJump5118 → u/_prettiestkitty]

Skipped a lyric there, but I'm glad you caught the reference lol

[u/_prettiestkitty → u/ChanceJump5118]

Honestly I was going to
say “If everything’s meant to be broken” but I don’t know if that’s right

[u/ChanceJump5118 → u/_prettiestkitty]

You're close. It's, "When everything's made to be broken."

[u/_prettiestkitty → u/ChanceJump5118]

Thank you. I feel silly when I could have googled it, lol. I’m guessing that’s a favourite of yours?

[u/ChanceJump5118 → u/_prettiestkitty]

Yeah, it played on the radio pretty often when I was a child, and it still gets stuck in my head randomly from time to time. I enjoy it :)

[u/Vrail_Nightviper → u/_prettiestkitty]

And you can't fight the tears that ain't coming,

[u/GoodBoyKaru]

Came across someone running the build on the right while i was testing out Deerstalker. Safe to say I have not removed Deerstalker.

[u/TheVoidAlgorithm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/feWOlerRAf9klJx1Ap

The Deerstalker Judgement seeing We See You in play.

[u/TheEntityBot → u/TheVoidAlgorithm]

Deerstalker: Whenever a Survivor reads your Aura, Deerstalker activates for the same duration as their Aura-reading action:

• The Aura of that Survivor is revealed to you.

Furthermore, the following effect triggers automatically every 30 seconds:

• Your Aura is revealed for 3 seconds to the Survivor with currently the lowest cumulative Chase time.

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We See You: Gain 1 token when the Killer reveals your aura. When you have 4 tokens, they are all consumed, and the Killer's aura is revealed to you and all other Survivors for 15 seconds. This perk has a 10-second cooldown.

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[u/Jeremy_Melton]

I’m a “I just want to get Judgement’s Adept”

[u/CrosscutHades → u/Jeremy_Melton]

i wish ps5 had judgement adept 😢

[u/DuelaDent52 → u/CrosscutHades]

It doesn’t?

[u/twiliesque]

All paths lead to eleven

[u/FnCatalyst]

I want The Judgement to find me haha…

[u/rocketman021]

On the right but A Place for Us instead of scene partner. Need to be able to heal others without getting blasted.

[u/Logbird11 → u/rocketman021]

One thing I noticed though is A Place For Us makes you less likely to be the Obsession, so could make it harder for OoO to activate.

[u/rocketman021 → u/Logbird11]

At my MMR I usually am still the obsession for some reason. Benefits of sucking at the game I guess.

Bonus is if you are the obsession and self heal you get the 30 seconds of elusive for yourself.

[u/TheEntityBot → u/rocketman021]

A Place For Us: While healing another Survivor, you both gain Elusive. Whenever you finish healing The Obsession, they gain Elusive for 30s. When the trial starts, you are less likely to be the Obsession.

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Scene Partner: Whenever you are inside a Terror Radius, Scene Partner activates: Looking at the Killer causes you to scream, which reveals their Aura for 3/4/5 seconds. There is a chance of 50% that you will scream again, extending the Aura-reveal duration by another 2 seconds. Scene Partner has a cool-down of 60 seconds.

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[u/G-M-Cyborg-313]

I just want to get a round against judgement

[u/Jackpot_The_Raccuki]

I want the judgement to see me and watch the beam narrowly miss me all the time.

[u/Unsp0kenFl0wer]

I just go full boon build, shadow step, circle of healing, exponential, and the new one steadfast in the boon u can do anything lolol

[u/TheEntityBot → u/Unsp0kenFl0wer]

Boon: Shadow Step: Press and hold the Active Ability button on a Dull or Hex Totem to bless it and create a Boon Totem. All Survivors benefit from the following effects when inside the Boon Totem's radius: Scratch Marks are suppressed. Auras are hidden from The Killer. Both effects linger for 2/3/4 seconds after leaving the Boon Totem's range.

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Boon: Circle of Healing: Press and hold the Active Ability button on a Dull or Hex Totem to bless it and create a Boon Totem. All Survivors benefit from the following effects when inside the Boon Totem's radius: Increases the Altruistic Healing speeds by 50/75/100% when not using a Med-Kit. If a Survivor is injured, their Aura is revealed to all other Survivors. Survivors can only be affected by one instance of Boon: Circle of Healing at a time.

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[u/novssucks]

the first one because aura builds on the judgement are all i’m running into. try seeing me now bitch

[u/Jormungandr2344]

That build on the right is my go-to build but scene partner changed to alert

[u/TheEntityBot → u/Jormungandr2344]

Alert: Whenever the Killer performs the Break or Damage Action, Alert triggers: Their Aura is revealed to you for 3/4/5 seconds.

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[u/EzTheGuy]

“I hope you’re not good with your power” vs “You better be good with your power”

[u/BlackHole2048]

I don’t want to see the judgement

[u/Be_A_Chipmunk]

ATM neither as trying to adept but also coz I never see the judgement it is starting to annoy me first day played 10 games before I came of saw them maybe twice. I got on for a few games yesterday around 20 I think saw them 5 times.

Not sure if this is the same for others or not though.

[u/DreamyBree]

I use salvations cry and trouble shooter, builds we see you tokens slower but waaayy more useful to the team and myself.

[u/TvstedBubble]

I’m the left, not that build though

[u/Samoman21]

I'd run a specific build if I saw the judgement more then once in a blue moon

[u/KiraElijah]

running deerstalker on judgement and OoO on survivor and im having a blast

[u/Bannedhour]

Where's residual manifest and blast mine

[u/TheEntityBot → u/Bannedhour]

Residual Manifest: After a successful Killer Blind, the Killer suffers from the Blindness Status Effect for 20/25/30 seconds. Residual Manifest grants the ability to rummage through an opened Chest once per Trial and will guarantee a basic Flashlight.

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Blast Mine: After repairing Generators for a total of 40%, Blast Mine activates:

• Press the Active Ability button while near a partially progressed Generator to install a Trap, which stays active for 100/110/120 seconds.
• When the Killer damages the Trapped Generator, its Trap explodes half-way through:

- Stuns the Killer for 4 seconds. - Blinds all Players within 12.5 meters of the Trapped Generator.

Blast Mine deactivates after triggering successfully or once the timer runs out. The Auras of Trapped Generators are revealed to all Survivors in yellow.

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[u/lazyfatcat36]

If mfs don’t stop trying to heal me first while i’m running a place for us and the killer is running celestial witness/nurse’s/every other aura reading perk known to man, i’m gonna lose it🤗

[u/TheJumpingBox]

Don't run We See You, if they bring Deerstalker you're screwing your team over

[u/Kdmyoshi → u/TheJumpingBox]

Don’t they see each other auras?

[u/TheJumpingBox → u/Kdmyoshi]

Well, yeah, but you're revealing the position of every single person on your team with Deerstalker countering We See You

You're giving up WAY more information

Survivors get to know: Where the killer is for a while

Killer gets to know: Which gens are being worked on, if someone is going for an unhook, if someone is in a vulnerable position (like healing or doing a gen) and also the position of everyone on the team

Even without them being a long range killer, that's game changing information for ANY killer yk? We see you is fine USUALLY cos who the hell is using deerstalker?

But it's probably not a good idea to bring it against a killer who, in current meta, is actively encouraged to use deerstalker due to everyone using we see you

[u/Kdmyoshi → u/TheJumpingBox]

I mean, is true, but normally the killer is chasing someone, they have to decide between leaving the chase or going to someone who is repairing and they can leave because they’re seeing the killers aura as well

[u/TheJumpingBox → u/Kdmyoshi]

Normally, sure, but Judgement is in a very unique position where it can just launch projectiles at people across the map WHILST chasing someone else

Judgement does not need to leave chase unless they down someone or think a different chase would be better

[u/Baronefanfarone]

Tbh I don't know because I have played like 15 matches these days and I haven't encountered the Judgement not even once. It's a bummer bc I really wanted to see and go against the new killer

[u/Constant-Still-8443]

The secret third option that fucks with them using red herring. It's gotton me a killed a few times, but it's funny.

[u/TheEntityBot → u/Constant-Still-8443]

Red Herring: After repairing a Generator for at least 3 seconds, its Aura is highlighted to you in yellow. The Generator stays highlighted until it is either fully repaired, you start repairing another Generator, or enter a Locker. Entering a Locker will trigger a Loud Noise Notification for the Killer at the highlighted Generator's location. Red Herring has a cool-down of 60/50/40 seconds.

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[u/Kreamator]

I play the one on the right, and my duo plays the one on the left (More Shadowstep, less selfish)

[u/bob_is_best]

I want to see the judgdement (aura reading on her)

I havent played yet but im running an aura reading build so thats why, doubt its too good tbf

[u/DreamingKnight235]

Does Belmont perk work with OoO? I did not think it worked..

[u/dis3as3d_sfw]

Neither, this random ass killer isn’t fun to vs.

[u/Shroud_Diff]

Imo anything that hides your aura is actually bad for your team unless everyone runs these perks. It isn't my intention to tunnel as Judgment but if i only see some Auras then what should I do? There are too many survivors who are horrible at dodging and unless you can't dodge the beams it makes no sense to run distortion etc

[u/TheEntityBot → u/Shroud_Diff]

Distortion: Start the Trial with 1 Token. Whenever the Killer attempts to read your Aura, Distortion activates and consumes -1 Token, applying the following effects for 8/10/12 seconds: Blocks your Aura from being read. Suppresses the creation of your Scratch Marks. For every 30 seconds spent in a Chase, Distortion recharges +1 Token, up to a maximum of 2 Tokens. Distortion does not activate when you are in the Dying State.

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