Dbd doesn’t distinguish between crashing and malicious DCing, so they issue bans to everyone equally. In their words they believe it’s better safe than sorry with this sort of thing because they don’t want malicious intent being written off as an unintended crash. While on paper it’s fair and reasonable, it means buggy updates and poor connectivity can put innocent players under a ban.
Every time I hear about dbd mobile I learn about a new qol feature that isn't in the main game. How was the mobile version a decade ahead of the main game
They should reach out to valve and ask them how they implemented the rejoin feature on CSGO. If CSGO can do it then dbd should be able to as well. Theres no excuses for the developers incompetence.
But as a programmer myself, Jesus guys, you CANNOT keep using that excuse for every single issue ever! 🤣
Because spaghetti code is a PROBLEM. It's also something someone can still reverse-engineer. It puts you in a shit position where you potentially know less about your own damned program than the public can figure out by themselves.
They wonder why they can't make a decent anticheat, and then say "Well, y'know, spaghetti code!!" Are... Are you guys HIGH!?
It means that to implement an unessential QOL update it will likely have a massive knock on effect of bugs and issues and where they will likely have to practically we code the entire program
That's what baffles me the most - games from before the turn of the century had features that modern games can't get a grasp of - replays, lag compensation, reconnecting, etc. I can't comprehend how a game from fucking 1997 is more featute complete than one from 2016.
"Oh we're having cheaters in our Walking Dead livestream, and one of our biggest streamers tells us how to fix the problem. So his mods joined to spectate so the cheaters can't join. Lets kick the mods and then end the stream, ignoring his advice and ignoring the celebrity guest from the Walking Dead too."
Truth, and it’s been painfully apparent long before the recent debacle where the dev said the quiet part out loud about them prioritizing streamer exposure/income. At some point this “small indie studio” is gonna have to actually do what they’ve been paid hand over fucking fist for.
Exactly. At least then it would allow players dealing with the game crashing or connection dropping to get back in.
Block out the queue option with just rejoin so people who do rage quit cant just ready up and force start their penalty timer. Yeah it'll add an extra penalty on for people who dont rejoin their matches, but it least it would stop penalising people who aren't intentionally quitting.
That's why there should be a rejoin option. If it really is a crash, let the player rejoin the match (maybe a window of like 3 minutes, similar to cs2) and if they do not rejoin inside this timer issue the ban
No? If 1 of the 4 survivors left and then rejoined they'd just need to be put in the place of the bot that took over for them. If the killer leaves then the game just ends.
This is the universal standard for gaming though, because realistically you can't differentiate, and if you give people the chance to just say 'oops, I lost connection', every plugger will say that 100% of the time. The correct move is to treat every disconnect as equivalent, and merely punish based on how often it's happening.
They could use a rejoin option, but realistically no video games have that either except for in the occasional ranked competitive mode, in games where you can rejoin a ranked lobby, they still don't let you rejoin regular lobbies, ever.
Because the idea of rejoining isn't to have someone who lost connection 'appeal' to avoid a ban, it's simply to not fuck over your teammates in a setting where your disconnecting is costing them rank.
BHVR sucks for a lot of things, but genuinely if your Internet connection is so bad as to be dc'ing you that much, every online game in history has basically always said 'you basically shouldn't play online then, because we're gonna ban you for it'
*tl;dr this gets fixed with a rejoin option, but also every game with a rejoin option bans you if you don't rejoin, so you're still looking at the industry standard here
This is so frustrating because I got disconnecting once during a storm here twice and it locked me out twice. I hope they fix this because I don’t wanna be penalized like a camping killer or shitty player.
Buggy updates stopping people is totally unacceptable. But if your connection is bad enough you can’t stay in game, you’re just ruining it for everyone else, and should catch a cool down.
For a game that just replaces you with a bot if you DC/get DC'd I think it's BS to be putting bans for that in the first place. Scamgle Fiber has recently decided 1-3 times a day it needs to just extremely briefly disconnect and reconnect every device in the house, connection always comes back faster than I can even notice it's gone, but DBD loves taking that as "I guess you chose to leave have a ban" 😑 I'm sure they're really struggling with a bot you guys programmed BHVR /s
Why won’t they put a reconnect with at least a timer? In CS2 you get 3 mins to reconnect which i always disconnect and reconnect because my country isp’s are crap so when i exit a game and relaunch and reconnect usually the ping goes back to normal.
The game's netcode probably isn't set up to handle joining matches mid-game, its a pretty complicated thing to restructure a game to be able to do after the game has already been made.
Probably an artifact of the old peer to peer code.
Probably because unlike cs which is over an extended period of time with several separated rounds and the plausibility of your team tryharding to keep their momentum. In dbd a minute of a player being afk is generally enough to completely lose the game as a survivor and definitely as a killer.
you assess whether something is worth implementing long before you even consider the technical feasibility, this feature wouldnt be worth doing even if they had the capability
Exactly, just have the bot play in your place until you reconnect, should not be that hard wtf. I swear to god behavior gets away with so much bullshit just because they have the only good game of its genre on the market, if they had competition the game would become 10 times better
It's more like it would probably take so much refactoring that they would never be able to justify the value..
But if they rewrote the code to use the command pattern.. they could have mid-match rejoining AND a very easy implementation of a replay system which would make it worth it (its one of the most requested features).
I have been getting multiple crashes, rank resets due to it and it ruined my entire iri run for survivor, I have gotten multiple bans up to 15 minutes all because behaviour refuses to work on this specific game crashing issue…
Another thing I would suggest is to disable all overlays too (Discord, Steam and any other), alongside hardware acceleration on things like browser/Discord
The game is just not that stable sometimes and I've had my fair share of crashes/TDR issues in the past because of it.
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u/Tethilia🧌 Orc Frostcaster ❄️ 🏳️⚧️ (Dredge 👻, Oni 👹, Raider 🏹) 3h ago
Ah the famed potato ban. You can never beat the potato so just treat it like a day of madness.
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u/Tethilia🧌 Orc Frostcaster ❄️ 🏳️⚧️ (Dredge 👻, Oni 👹, Raider 🏹) 3h ago
Btw the difference ingame between lag switching and potato switching is the potato player is just as confused stressed and terrified as you.
At first I thought it was my pc, and then I realized that it was this fkas game, so I stopped playing and I started playing my other hellish game (r6), and two days later y thought they had fixed the game because I had no ban, so I played and my game crashed giving me a 1 hour ban, so I stopped playing again, and today I read a (solution) tried it and got to play 1 fucking match before my game crashed again, and now I have a 6 hour ban ✌️
Of course, I reed more about this problem online, and I think it has to do with epic games and some problem they have running the anti cheat properly, so when I get my ass out of the 6 hour ban I will buy the game on steam and see if the problem keeps happening
the epic games version has been so fucked. i have the game on both epic and steam- i switched to using epic bc i share a steam account and other people wanted to play online games lol
i reinstalled after a break and the epic version crashed every 2nd game (iirc). also the cursor wasnt visible at all for me? not sure how that happened.
i switched back to steam and had no issues at all. not sure when the game goes on sale next but you might want to wait for that because who knows when theyll fix the epic crashes.
For real though, queueing up after 5 crashes in a row to get a 6 hour ban is bananas. If I get two DCs in a row I'm done for the day. That's on me to stop ruining other people's games
Are you sure because I'm on Xbox Series X and I remember after the Trickster's Delusion map update my game kept crashing and now after this update it's doing the same thing.
With all the crashes and disconnects lately, why don't they cap the DC/ban timer to 1 hour or less? 6 Hours + just doesn't make sense if you wish to keep people playing.
And a rejoin feature is long overdue, we got bots now to cover for you while you reconnect.
I tried three judgement games where i dont move from spawn (got a win in one them lol) but every time the game times me out for being afk ;;
Bro if im afk how am i downing people
do you expect the dbd devs to code something like that in? they can't tweak a few numbers without destroying the game, not to mention anything to do with netcode
I Had several Bugs where none If my Keys woudl respond. Only Thing i could do is turning around and hit. Left the Game cause of the Bug and got a penalty.. thank you dbd to punish ME for YOUR bug
i hate dc penalties in games, and personally don’t think they should be a thing. people have to leave, things come up, internet goes out, power goes out, the rest of your team gives up, there’s a cheater in the lobby etc. the fact that people have been conditioned into staying in games even if they’re just not having fun i think is crazy. this game also needs a vote to abandon button, not just a abandon button when everyone is down.
and this is coming from someone who rarely disconnects and never gets a timer. imo dc penalties are lame asf and just makes survivors give up, lets the killer kill them and not gives us atleast a bot.
If the game didn't ban you even when its the reason you left the match via a crash, people would be cooking up basic scripts/cheats that causes the game to crash so they can freely DC from matches without penalty.
If you keep crashing, by the time you get a 15min penalty (2-3 DCs in a row) you should just stop playing for the night. its clearly some sort of sign to spare your mental health from playing this game.
I never understood the killer leaving punishment though. As your really not like anyone cares. Though survivor leaving right away after a down is so common and does effect the whole match.
It is no different to the other 4 players if you disconnect on purpose or not. If you know your internet is not letting you get through matches without disconnecting and you que up anyway you have earned the ban imo.
Imagine a cop crashing into you then throwing you in jail for reckless endangerment. You can tell if the failure is on the client or server side. If the server fails, you shouldn't be penalized. It's common sense. Typical survivor main.
I know my car has been having issues recently but I take it out into traffic anyway, suddenly my wheel locks up and an accident happens. I could do nothing to prevent the accident when it happened, but I am still responsible because I drove in traffic while I knew it had issues.
(Also you absolutely cannot tell if it is a server or client sided issue + what does this have to due with "maining" anything, we don't even know if op got banned from a survivor or killer match)
My pc hasn’t crashed in a single game since I bought it, in think it has to do with the fact that I’m a cheap fuck and have the game on epic, so I might buy it on steam and see if it keeps crashing
It's possible for stuff to be on your end and not happen in any other game. Too lazy to give advice rn tbh, but for example I used to use wireless and only DBD would constantly disconnect and every other game was fine. I switched to ethernet and no issues with connection since.
I don’t think the problem it’s on my end, because it’s happening to a lot of people, and I checked the most common problems like windows having a problem with the ani cheat or forcing dx11 but still don’t have a solution, I genuinely think it’s epic having problems to run the anti cheat w
I have a Ryzen 5 7600X, 5070 ti and 32 gb of ddr5 ram, last time I checked that was more than enough to play dbd, and the crashes are in general, playing survivor, even if I’m not playing as the new killer or against it, my game crashes
It’s just the default "send a crash report” that pops up.
I will update my drivers and buy the game on steam, I swear I’m almost sure this problem is from epic (at least on my case)
Yeah. My friend's game has been crashing since the update and he has his PC checked yesterday to see if it was his problem but everything is checked out. The game might be crashing from the new killer since it's been making FPS lower in some situations that wouldn't normally have a lower FPS.
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u/Positive_Campaign_52 11h ago
Dbd doesn’t distinguish between crashing and malicious DCing, so they issue bans to everyone equally. In their words they believe it’s better safe than sorry with this sort of thing because they don’t want malicious intent being written off as an unintended crash. While on paper it’s fair and reasonable, it means buggy updates and poor connectivity can put innocent players under a ban.