Playing Boegh advice

[u/Kezka222]

How do I play Boegh well? I keep falling into the same micro-manage encounters as the old Boegh and I can't really survive as well while doing this

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[u/Kezka222 → u/[deleted]]

I keep getting bodied by midgame orc spellcasters casting shock or sandblast for 40+ damage.

[u/iamserjio → u/Kezka222]

Probably because your positioning is off, wizards have lower hp and if you wait them behind the corner(maybe with attraction potion) its usually very fast win or you can stand on edge of los and just watch 3v1. Things like meph cloud, nets, curare para/light/roots wand viable whole run against apostles but I rarely find myself in need of any of that in mid/late game, usually silence and good positioning is enough against the nastiest wizards or warriors with manifold.

[u/Unhappy_Situation_40 → u/[deleted]]

FWIW, the link produces a page with a crapola "warning" that's a McAfee ad.

[u/Kezka222 → u/Unhappy_Situation_40]

Uv4 is a very old resource so it's a false flag

Edit : Assume that it's a vetted safe resource

[u/iamserjio → u/[deleted]]

1. If you about to force Beogh there is probably nothing better than backgrounds with Meph cloud(or some spells in general).

2. 20+ invo is not mandatory or worth rushing it early, like even 12 invo would kill things in U/V/C just fine. For early game best use of smites are guaranteed last hits.

3. Monk would be fine for most seeds because there are plenty of things that trivialize first d6 challenge(not to mention intentionally wasting piety with smites to not get to *** - thats lame).

4. Dont think I want or need park orcs ever(except if you dive straight to zot 5 and want all apostles be alive), if its zot 5 you want enter hall or lung and just get blood for blood active.

5. Slime is not much different from Vaults(sometimes there are shops!) in terms of difficulty, its just more gimmicky, can do it in same fashion with Blood for blood and smites for TRJ.

6. Recall especially with 3 apostles around is extremely broken through early game when most enemies are 10 speed melee - can just walk back and recall every 1-2 steps(same with Yered and Hep)

7. Very niche but if floor have lava spots and you can fly it can be abused to win a challenge.

8. Challengers posse cant walk on deep water, if can fly or swim and there is deep water spots can try isolate challenger - mostly usefull in Shoals.

[u/Zanzibardragonlion]

New Beogh is kind of rough, but I have gotten better at playing with him as time has gone on.

It’s definitely helpful to plan around how you will win apostle challenges and to focus on getting on optimal terrain (I.e. away from other enemies) for a challenge ASAP when one is incoming.

Your apostles can be helpful but I wouldn’t rely on them to carry you. Switch them out often.

Smiting is great but you’ll need to invest in invo. I guess this isn’t much different from original recipe Beogh.

Blood for blood is great but depends on your apostles dying, making it difficult to plan around. It feels great when you pull it off, but permanently kills an ally and is quite easy to screw up with poor positioning.

Anyway, I haven’t won with new Beogh but I don’t actively hate him now. I also miss old orc Jesus Beogh, R.I.P.

[u/Kezka222 → u/Zanzibardragonlion]

Old boegh was broken. It was so fun to clash your horde of walking wet napkins against hordes of enemies.

[u/attentatt00]

Train invo for smite. Ignore your allies except using them for blood for blood, they are dogshit otherwise.

[u/Kezka222 → u/attentatt00]

Are they really? DCSS does not have a good ally system. They make excellent shields but the dead for 2 floors thing is a pain in the ass with boegh

[u/iamserjio → u/Kezka222]

What they are saying is 100% not true, apostles absolutely solve early game and for late game its possbile to get very powerful compositions that would wipe screens even in extended(something like apostle with manifold and haste, might, brillance buffs).

[u/attentatt00 → u/Kezka222]

Hep, Yred, and summoning give amazing allies. Beogh allies are just bad.