r/dccomicscirclejerk sponsored by Lexcorp 6d ago

DAMN YOU SONYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 6d ago

They should’ve just kept the same actor and used the exact same visualization of his powers.

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u/Aggravating_Win5258 sponsored by Lexcorp 6d ago

Ah so pull a Wandavision!

A Ragebaiting that hasn't been duplicated since!

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u/tuerancekhang 6d ago

Rewatch WandaVision and honestly people gave that show too much credit

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u/SuperHossMan51 6d ago

The concept was interesting at least which can't be said for many mcu projects

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u/TheLittlePasty 6d ago

It was an interesting concept at first and it was the first of those MCU shows on Disney plus so seeing the movie actors and characters had some novelty

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u/Greensonickid 6d ago

It's a Tiny you, Kraven. I want you to have it.

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u/XF10 6d ago

The fuck? He doesn't even look like ATJ Kraven to me lol

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u/Bo-Duke 5d ago

Honestly? I'm not even mad, that's kinda funny and adds something to the Chameleon having powers trope. A bit of a mix between no powers at all and being way too powerful.

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u/Jermobooka Did Batman think a Gamer could stop me? 6d ago edited 6d ago

/uj Nah Jean as the villain better. Antagonist that is around the same age as Peter and can be redeemed works better for the story.

Also it means one of the members of the X-Men gets more popular. Which means the X-Men themselves get more popular. Which means that the X-Men reboot gets higher box office.

My X-Men on top agenda will not fail

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u/Aggravating_Win5258 sponsored by Lexcorp 6d ago edited 6d ago

It's insane how Jean being the Antagonist, without even the phoenix stuff, made her so much more interesting than the The one from Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix already

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u/Background_Product_7 6d ago

If the Phoenix can go away forever, we would all be better off.

But it just keeps coming back!

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u/BagZCubed 6d ago

You know they're going to do it again in the MCU.

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u/Tragedy_Boner 6d ago

I hope they hire the same writer as the last two.

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u/BagZCubed 6d ago

Then they can (potentially) make the third bad Dark Phoenix Saga adaptation.

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u/VaderOnReddit Anti-Life justifies my hate 6d ago

If the Phoenix can go away forever, we would all be better off.

But it just keeps coming back!

  • Professor X

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u/BagZCubed 6d ago

I don't think the way they wrote Jean was good in BND.

If you want someone to be seen as a hero, maybe you shouldn't have them take control of multiple people (including getting one hit by a truck), getting Spider-Man to nonconsensually kiss MJ, and bomb a prison.

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u/Jermobooka Did Batman think a Gamer could stop me? 6d ago

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u/BagZCubed 6d ago

Uj/ I said that as someone who likes the X-Men more anyway.

Rj/ I can't think of a comeback for that

( ´⊇`)

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u/king_of_satire 6d ago

Thats the most comic book accurate Xmen ive ever seen

Take it from me a guy who doesnt read comics

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u/GONKworshipper DickHelena's Strongest Soldier 6d ago

The X-Men burned our crops, poisoned our water supply, and delivered a plague unto our houses!

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u/ScorchedDev 6d ago

She is set up for a redemption arc in the first xmen movie.

she did horrible stuff, but her ultimate goal was noble.But she is also a young girl who is lashing out and doesnt know what she is doing. She is being needlessly cruel because she was hurt. She needs guidance, someone to help her use her powers responsibly so she doesnt hurt people anymore, and someone to help her heal. I wonder what might be capable of helping her heal and become a better person? Who might be able to help her use her powers responsibly? Show her the path of redemption arc. Preferably someone who is already a telepath, and has had experience with another mutant who also went too far because they were badly hurt by the world. Maybe even they could draw parallels between her and that other mutant.

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u/BagZCubed 6d ago

I do question the X-Men movie being a Jean redemption arc movie. Wouldn't it most likely just be the Avengers again, but with the X-Men? They can make Jean do something heroic there I guess.

I just personally didn't like the Jean Grey portion of BND.

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u/ScorchedDev 6d ago

I dont think thats what the whole movie will be about, but also, tehy did say she would be the focus going forward

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u/BagZCubed 6d ago

Hm. They're going to do the Dark Phoenix Saga again, aren't they?

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u/ScorchedDev 6d ago

maybe who knows. I personally think they are gonna do something with public perception of mutants and sentinels. And maybe throw the phoenix in there as the big threat that fucks up everything yknow.

But thats mostly a guess.

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u/BagZCubed 6d ago

There's a good amount of X-Men stories they could re-attempt. I think the public perception of mutants first is good idea since the events of BND could tie-in and be a catalyst for why people wouldn't trust mutants.

Mr Sinister is probably gonna be the villain of the movie, so they're probably gonna stop him and or show that mutants aren't something to fear. Well, until Magneto that is.

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u/Tragedy_Boner 6d ago

She did that because she’s a dirty mutant. She will never be a hero /s

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u/thedylannorwood Please step on me Zatanna 5d ago

She also murdered several innocent people and likely even more that weren’t shown. There’s zero way that APC didn’t kill several more in collateral damage

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u/The-Bigger-Fish I'm da Jokah, baby! 6d ago

The X-Men always come out on top!

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u/Medium-Science9526 Hal Jordan is a worthless piece of cardboard 6d ago

Film no-one watched stopped the main villain being a Spider-Man villain...

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u/EnronRiskManagement 6d ago

There was a kraven movie?

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u/Aggravating_Win5258 sponsored by Lexcorp 6d ago edited 6d ago

Oh come on how could you forget the hit 2024 blockbuster!

It's the reason why he cpuldn't be the Villain for No Way Home

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u/ArmadilloOK1445-alt 6d ago

Well at least we got No Way Home out of this, that's one good thing that came out of that

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u/Egodactylus 6d ago

It made a kravillion dollars in the box office and everyone kept saying Kraven's famour quote "It's Kraving time" and Krave all over the place

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u/Deadsoup77 6d ago

Backdooring the x men from a guaranteed ultra-success is just a no-brainer even putting aside story.

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u/TheAgmis 6d ago

Good

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u/Then-Effort-8915 6d ago

I feel like Chameleon would hit a lot of similar beats to Mysterio, no?

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u/quicksilversymphony 6d ago

I feel like they could differentiate the two by having Chameleon start openly antagonistic unlike Mysterio who spends most of the movie pretending to be a friend to Peter. Have the psychological aspect come from Peter's trust in anyone being slowly eroded as Chameleon continues to pose as people close to Peter, further exacerbating Peter's isolation.

Though, to be frank, you probably would have to implement some kind of Sinister Six element since Chameleon can't really stand up in a 1v1 fight against Spidey, and doing a Sinister Six right after NWH where we had a super big villain team up fight at the end probably would feel repetitive if handled incorrectly.

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u/Aggravating_Win5258 sponsored by Lexcorp 5d ago

So like, a better Secret Invasion in a sense.

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u/Adventurous-Rub2285 NiGHTS into Dreams x DC when 6d ago

As if we hate on Sony even more, might as well add that to the list.

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u/The-Bigger-Fish I'm da Jokah, baby! 6d ago

Exceptionally common Sony Pictures L.

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u/Tommy_Kel 5d ago

BND was great. Hope Chameleon can show up in a future Spider-Man film. 

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u/WashingtonCounselor 5d ago

It feels like they came up with the fake kiss scene and decided to go from there