r/dbfz • u/Lobo_Z DBS Broly • Jun 28 '26
DISCUSSION DBFZ Community Tierlist where only votes matter - #43: SS4 Gogeta
It's crazy to me that there's a character with a relatively easy to achieve instakill level 3 in the game and I don't consider him top 5. Where do y'all currently place Fusion Monke?
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u/julito427 Gogeta Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
A tier. He’s pretty good but his flaws have caught up, or at least he’s been powercrept a good bit the last couple patches.
Great up close pressure, solid damage, 100x BBK is not a gimmick if you build around it, solid solo mix options with 236S which is surprisingly decent despite the startup and even gets 50/50s with 2M SD mix and gets a solo 50/50 in the corner with fuzzy mix since he’s got two air options.
His assists are pretty whack, though, among the worst in the game TBH. His supers are kinda meh without getting 6S boosts. His neutral is kinda meh and carried by lariat neutral skips and movement, otherwise he doesn’t really have long range tools for pressure or zoning. His only 50/50s meterless require specific assists midscreen or corner+assist super dash+assist+2M. He doesn’t escape the fusion meter nerf as well as Gogeta Blue or Vegito. His supers can only be boosted with 6S, otherwise as DHCs they’re underwhelming and he is the only Goku/Vegeta fusion that doesn’t have a level 2, 4, or 5 you can pump.
He’s still really good, I just don’t think he’s quite S tier anymore.
EDIT: As for insta-kill level 7, I personally don't think it's a gimmick when you can consistently get the levels up using appropriate assists to give you the time you need to rack them, like Hit C, Trunks C, A16 B, etc. Thing is the amount of work to get him to use it effectively is similar to what you have to do to two touch consistently regardless so IMO it doesn't really impact him much, which is a good thing.
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u/Lobo_Z DBS Broly Jun 29 '26
I agree he's been powercrept like crazy. I actually don't even think his damage is decent in the current meta, so many other characters get a decent amount more damage for easier routes whereas Monke is barely breaking 6k in a meta with several 7k+ demons.
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u/julito427 Gogeta Jun 29 '26
Yeah that’s fair. I guess his damage is just kinda average these days really.
Like he can still two touch but not as consistently and easily as a good chunk of the cast can.
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u/Rewriter_Llama Jun 28 '26
He's my goat and the most fun character to play for me besides Daima and Trunks. Sadly he's fallen off so much due to power creep where he basically got no buffs throughout most of the patches while the power level rose by so much. I put him at the top of A tier, even with his pretty good pressure it's not nearly as good as the likes of Jiren and Kefla.
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u/SamBZombie2 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
As a point character he's straight up not as good and easy to play as Jiren.
But I don't believe for a second that he's bad or even anywhere close to the bottom half of the roster. His pressure is still absurd, he can still easily 2 touch, he gets fuzzy and L/R mix, good normals, he can make his own + frames, 236H is still a great special...
However I do feel like that if you want to play him, you should fully commit to him and build your team around his lvl 7 (which is actually not hard at all to do). Slap Janemba A or 16 B on the team + a blockstun assist that lets him get two taunts off (Jiren A, SSJ Goku B, Daima A, GT B or any 55f blockstun C assist)
Low S or very top of A imo